Intel Core i7-1165G7 Benchmark Review Battle vs AMD Ryzen 4000 By Hardware Unboxed

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Intel Core i7-1165G7 Benchmark Review Battle vs AMD Ryzen 4000

Welcome back to hardware box. Today we are finally getting around to checking out intel's new tiger lake mobile processors, starting with the core i7 1165 g7, the part that will be seen in most mainstream high-end ultra-portable laptops intel announced their tiger lake lineup many months ago. Systems have been on store shelves for a little while as well, but with so many hardware releases in the last few months. It's taken us until now to get systems on hand and put them through our benchmark suite so tiger lake and the core i7 1165 g7 is an overhaul of intel's previous mobile offerings in particular ice lake, which launched with rather mediocre performance last year with AMD storming into the mobile market in early 2020, with their zen 2 based dozen 4000 lineups, which in most instances destroyed intel's previous offerings in terms of performance tiger lake, is intel's big response, that's filled with new features. Perhaps the biggest update for intel is the new 10 nanometer superfine process.10 nanometers has been problematic for intel over the last few years, to say the least, but for a low power. Mobile CPU, 10, nanometers superfine finally seems up to the task for next generation.

CPU architectures on this node intel able to significantly increase both CPU and GPU clock speeds compared to 10 nanometers, isolate products at the same power class, which provides the bulk of the performance improvements on offer with the cry7 1165 g7 over the i7 1065 g7. On top of this, there have been some minor updates to the CPU core design. Moving from sunny cove up to willow cove, most notably cache sizes, have increased from 8 megabytes of l3 on previous top end quad cores up to 12 megabytes. We also get a much larger GPU design based on intel's new BC architecture, packing 96 execution units, higher frequency memory, support new features like thunderbolt 4 and PCI 4.0, and better hardware acceleration for video encoding and decoding today, we're looking at the cryo7 1165 g7, specifically, which is intel's second from top and most widely used tiger lake up3 processor up3 is essentially what used to be called u-series. So, in that 15 watt power range, it packs four willow, cove CPU cores and eight threads, which is a deficit on AMD's eight core design they are currently offering in this power class.

However, intel are attempting to make up for that with high clock speeds. With this generation intel have changed how they are reporting key metrics like base clock instead giving us this value for just 28 watts and 12 watt configurations instead of the default 15 watt. So we are seeing a 2.8 gigahertz base at 28 watts, which is much higher than the 1.5 gigahertz base that the ice lake, core i7 1065 g7 offered at 25 watts. However, the base frequency gain is much lower at 12 watts. Just 200 megahertz higher than we previously had in this class isolates fairly restrictive frequency cap brought about by issues with the 10 nanometer node they were using at the time, has also been lifted.

Thanks to 10 nanometers superfine boost clocks with the 1165 g7, now top out at 4.7 gigahertz on a single thread compared to a rather pathetic 3.9 gigahertz with the 1065 g7 in comparison, and then we have the GPU upgraded from a gen 11 design to CLP. This brings with it a host of improvements, including 96 execution units versus 64, previously, as well as a maximum frequency bump from 1.1 to 1.3. Gigahertz, like with the CPU core intel, are touting much higher frequencies at all voltages with its new BC design. These are the basics of the new 1165 g7 design. We've talked a bit more about this in previous videos covering the launch and architecture disclosures if you're interested in further information, but basically this isn't just a simple 100 to 200 megahertz frequency bump on existing architectures, like we got for years in the sky lake era, this is a substantial overhaul.

Unfortunately, the name didn't receive the same treatment. Core i7 1165 g7 remains one of the worst named CPUs in the industry. Right now for today's benchmark review, we'll be going through productivity and gaming benchmarks, comparing the 1165 g7 at both 15 watts and 28 watt power levels to other u-series mobile CPUs like dozen ice lake, comet lake and so on. There's a lot of benchmarking to get through so strap yourselves in we're very lucky to have received four i7 1165 g7 laptops when compiling this review, which gives us the most comprehensive data we've ever had for this sort of launch. So, let's run through the test systems.

First up we have intel's new UK m15 branded as the Shinto vision 15. This is intel's 15-inch tiger lake reference design that they are offering to OEMs, which is quite nice overall, with that MacBook like aesthetic it has the 1165 g7 running at 28 watts or even higher at times, although we left it at 28 watts in the default power profile, 16, gigabytes of LP ddr4x memory and plenty of adequate cooling which keeps it pretty quiet, plus a 1080p display. Next up we have the BMG core 14, a powerful 14-inch portable system that packs both an 1165 g7 at up to 28 watts and an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650, discrete GPU, 32 gigabytes of dual channel ddr4 3200 memory here, plus a 512 gig, Samsung SSD and a 1080p display. It's not the slimmer system going around, but this thing packs a serious punch in this form factor with that GPU inside and as you'll see in some compute benchmarks. It is substantially faster than these other laptops for GPU acceleration, making it, of course, the fastest laptop that we're looking at today, then we come to the Dell Inspiron 14 7000, which I bought for testing.

Furthermore, it has the core i7 1165 g7 inside running up to 20 watts long term, although for this review we're using the 15 watt power profile, it also features NVIDIA, GeForce, 350, discrete graphics, 16, gigabytes of lpddr4x memory and a 2560x1600 display quite like this system as well, given its premium build and portable nature. Finally, we have the schenkevia 14, a more portability, focused, 14-inch laptop, which also features the i7 1165 g7 at up to 20 watts, but for this review, we're using the 15 watt power profile, 16 gigabytes of dual channel ddr4 3200 memory, a 1080p display and a nice slim chassis, that's perfect for a laptop that relies solely on integrated graphics. The reason we have chosen these power profiles to use with these laptops, specifically even if they are not the highest profile available in some instances, is to give us the best apples to apples comparisons with chips that we've already tested, mostly at either 15 watts or 25 watts. As we've talked about previously, the power level is crucial in laptop form factors as while a higher power level delivers better performance. It also requires more cooling, so either a thicker or louder design.

We don't think it's fair to compare one CPU running at 15 watts in say a slim and light chassis with limited cooling to a beefier design, with a discrete GPU running at 28 watts. However, we have left boost configurations as default with all of these title systems, boosting between 35 and 50 watts, for varying periods of time, sometimes for multiple minutes. The results we'll see in the following charts are an average of benchmark runs across laptops. With the same configuration, we've tested, multiple laptops for nearly all the CPUs in this chart, so this should give you a generalized look at performance. OEMs can, of course, configure their laptops.

However, they like, so you might see a five percent difference from the average results at the same power level, depending on the laptop you buy. That's generally, what we've seen if you're thinking of getting an ultra-thin laptop, then the 15 watt numbers will be more in line with what you'll see, whereas those buying more premium and larger designs should look more closely at the 25 watt plus numbers, let's get into the benchmarking, and we'll start with cine bench r20. The benchmark intel are begging people not to use being a multi-threaded workload. This is not a strong suit of intel's tiger-like platform, given that it has just four cores compared to six and eight cores. For most of AMD's dozen lineup as a result in the higher power class, the 1165 g7 is not very competitive here: falling 30 behind the dozen 7 4700u and 45 behind the dozen 7 4 800.

U at 15 watts these margins are even higher. However, there is some good news here when comparing to other intel processors at 28 watts versus 25 watts for the 1065 g7 intel's new tiger lake design is a healthy 24, faster thanks to much higher sustained multi-core clock speeds. However, at 15 watts the gains aren't as substantial with the 1165 g7 pulling just 12 percent ahead. It seems that 10 nanometer superfine plays much more nicely at 28 watts. Then it does at 15 watts, which would explain intel's strong focus on the higher power configuration at the end of the day, though, in this benchmark, the 1165 g7 can't match the dozen 5 4500u in multi-thread performance, while tiger lake's cine bench multi-thread performance is unimpressive.

The opposite is true for single thread. The 1165 g7 is easily the fastest mobile CPU. We've tested for single thread performance outperforming all other designs by a substantial amount. The 1165 g7 at 28 watts is 23 faster than the dozen 7 4800u AMD's fastest Renoir design. However, to boost up to 4.8 gigahertz, a single willow, cove CPU core, actually consumes more than 15 watts of power. It's more around the 20 to 22 watt mark in my testing, which is why, when tiger lake is configured at its default, 15 watt TDP single thread performance drops outside the boost period.

This is in contrast to AMD's design, which is able to run a single core below 15 watts, so dozen sees a negligible performance reduction at 15 watts. The end result is that, while the 1165 g7 is 23 percent faster than the 4800u higher power level, it's only 15 faster at 15 watts. With that said, overall, the single thread performance is still very impressive and clearly the ability to boost up to 4.7 gigahertz is giving intel a strong win here, noting that the 4800u only tops out at 4.2 gigahertz, seeing an u-series class processor beat every h-series chip as well is quite unusual and could make a tiger lake laptop the best choice if you have a single threaded productivity workload. Next up is handbrake which tests CPU encoding over a prolonged period, as this is a multi-threaded test. Tiger lake is underwhelming failing to beat the dozen 5 4500u, while the 1165 g7 is faster than the 1065 g7 16, faster at 28 watts and 8 faster at 15 watts.

That's nowhere near the required amount to bridge the gap to dozen with just a quad-core design. The dozen 7 4800u is especially impressive here at 15 watts, absolutely destroying the 1165 g7. It's a very similar story with blender CPU encoding, where once again, tiger lake falls substantially behind Renoir for multi-core performance, while the 1165 g7 benefits from a healthy 21 performance gain over the 1065 g7 and 28 to 25 watts that isn't quite enough to beat the 15 watt dozen 5 4500u, showing that intel's quad-core design isn't really ideal for efficiency in these workloads in GCC compilation in Corwin, the core i7 1165 g7 is not a particularly great choice, producing compilation times only slightly better than the cry7 1065 g7. This means that tiger leg falls well behind AMD's, dozen processors again for heavy code. Compilation work, although I do suspect this will vary depending on to compile, the more single threaded, the better the results will be for tiger lake, but as soon as multi-threading comes into play, then the 1165 g7 gets left behind.

It's a somewhat better story in chromium compilation, as the 1165 g7 is at least competitive with the dozen 5 4 500 at 25 watts and 28 watts, but it still gets outperformed by AMD's higher end sent, apes Matlab's built-in benchmark uses a combination of multi-threaded single threaded and memory heavy functions here. The chores 7 1165 g7 is a very strong competitor, edging out the 1065 g7 by 17, at 28 watts and 8 at 15 watts to be the fastest overall u-series processor. The additional frequency offered to tiger lake allows it to retake the performance crown from AMD, which just barely outperformed ice lake with its highest end Renoir configuration next up. We have our XL large number calculation test which, like many functions in Excel, uses multi-threading and hits the cache quite hard for a CPU with just four cores. The Chris 7 1165 g7 punches above its weight outperforming the six core 12 thread: dozen 5 pro 4650u, and matching the dozen 7 4700u in the higher power class, while not the overall fastest CPU in this division.

That goes to the 4800u. The 1165g7 is a good mobile processor for Excel workloads when renew hit, the market AMD was able to claw out of victory in PC, mark 10s essentials test, especially with their high-end dozen 7 apes. In this workload, which covers app loading, light web browsing and video conferencing, the i7 1165 g7 does offer 12 more performance than previous generation parts. So it's able to match the dozen 7 4800u for basic workloads, given the 4800u is quite rare on the market. Perhaps the 4700u is a better comparison where the 1165 g7 is slightly faster in the seven to eight percent range for this review, I'm switching from using PC, park's productivity workload to the application workload which uses the more commonly used Microsoft, office, suite and edge web browser, as opposed to open source apps like LibreOffice, given that most areas to web browsing and office apps are single threaded.

It's no surprise that tiger lake is the more powerful platform here. However, the performance lead is really only apparent when the 1165 g7 is allowed to use 28 watts of power. In this range. The 1165g7 is 14 faster than the 4800u when viewing the overall application score and 22 percent faster than the 4700. U, these numbers drop a bit to 5 and 12 respectively, when comparing it 15 watts, which is a much narrower margin like in our custom workload.

XL is the strongest result Verizon, while PowerPoint is king on tiger lake. Another lighter workload that is common for ultraportable laptops is compression and decompression work here, we're looking at compression and as the test is multi-threaded. This is an area where tiger lake falls behind relative to dozen 7 processors at 28 watts. The 1165 g7 is around that of the dozen 5 pro 4650u, while at 15 watts it's slightly ahead of the 4500u compression, isn't zen's strong suit, but the power and efficiency of their 8 core design is too strong. Decompression is especially weak on the 1165 g7, getting absolutely destroyed, in particular by the SMT, enabled parts in AMD's lineup.

The battle between tiger lake and the 4700u is much smaller. However, the 1165 g7 is still at least 25 percent slower, which makes dozen the clear choice for those that do a lot of decompression work on their laptop. On the other hand, another lower level task that is often key to performance is cryptography, and here intel's, accelerated, eyes 256 blocks is substantially faster than dozen. It's actually pulled even further away from ice lake on average delivering at least 40 more performance than dozen laptops. This test is quite memory sensitive, so the gains are higher on LP ddr4x laptops that have higher bandwidth, acrobat pdf2 image exporting is highly single threaded.

So it's no surprise that the 1165g7 is the fastest mobile CPU. We've tested we're seeing performance 20 better than the 1065 g7 around the mark of our cine bench results, which allows it to handily, beat dozen 7 by 20 to 25 percent. Next up is adobe photoshop in Puget's benchmark, which covers most commonly used functions in photoshop tiger lake performs very well as single thread performance still rains king in this application. Like other workloads, the gains are much more substantial at 28 watts than they are at 15 watts, with the 1165 g7 performing 12 percent better than the 700 you with the higher power class, but just 3 percent, better at 15 watts, still double-digit gains over ice lake is quite handy, we'll finish up the productivity workloads with our hardware, accelerated benchmarks tiger x, new meteor engine alongside a more powerful GPU, allows it to offset the lack of CPU cores in the Puget premiere export test, a test which, on integrated graphics, is often GPU limited. It's not a resounding win for the 1165 g7, given it's faster than dozen 7 APU's at 28 watts, but slower at 15 watts, but it is significantly faster than last generation CPUs in this test, and just as a quick note, we tested this app using the latest beta versions that fully support dozen apes for hardware acceleration.

So this is no longer a test where intel is running. Hardware accelerated, while AMD is left to render on the CPU. These are proper, fair accelerated benchmarks, thanks to adobe for reaching out and letting me know that they've fixed, a range of long-standing bugs with premiere on dozen apes, where tiger lake's media engine is really allowed to shine, is in the playback test. The 1165 g7 is substantially faster than other integrated GPU solutions at 28, watts and performance is still slightly ahead of the dozen 7 4800u at 15 watts for da Vinci resolve exports, there's not much separating the dozen 7 4800u and cry7 1165 g7 in their higher power classes and the 1165 g7 is just eight percent ahead of the 4700u. However, roles are reversed at 15 watts, with the 4700 you now the faster chip realistically in such a GPU limited test such as da Vinci, you won't want to be exporting too many files on an ultraportable, laptop APU.

You can see here that, as soon as you add a decent discrete GPU into the mix like you get in the BMG core, 14 performance nearly doubles, and it only grows from there with beefier, GPUs and CPUs, and finally, we're going to close out the productivity tests with hardware accelerated hand braking coding, using either even ice or quick sync handbrake still heavily utilizes part of the CPU for this test. So despite having a decent encoding engine, the 1165 g7 here is CPU limited and slots between the dozen 5 4500u and dozen 5 pro 4650u. This can be bumped up a class through the use of an NVIDIA, discrete GPU, which, despite quick sync's improvements, still appears to hold the superior h.265 encoder. With that said, quick quick sync is clearly doing quite a bit of work here, as previously with CPU only encoding, the 1165g7 was 35 slower than the 4700u with hardware acceleration, for both the 1165 g7 is 25 slower, suggesting quick sync to be faster than AMD's ice. Now moving into gaming performance, and here we'll start with grand theft.

Auto 5. Here are the results with the CPU at 15 watts, and what you'll spot is the 1165 g7? Isn't all that competitive in this power class up against dozen falling below the dozen 5 option, even with fast LP ddr4x memory at 15 watts? There is some merit to including a low power, discrete GPU like the MX 350, which is substantially faster than other integrated options in this game at 28 watts, the 1165 g7 is significantly more competitive, matching the dozen 7 4700u and 4800u, and getting close to previous MX 250 discrete options. Nvidia GPUs are still the far better choice for this game, though, with the GTX 1650 providing over double the frame rate in some situations using low settings in civilization, 6, the 1165 g7 is able to match the dozen 7 4700u on average frame rate at 15 watts, which is quite neat and shows strong progress for intel's new BC GPU in a game that did not run well on ice lake, we're seeing better performance than the MX 250, but not quite at the level of the 4800u or mx350 at 28 watts. The i7 1165 g7 is able to flex its muscles a bit more and get much closer to the 4800u. Now exceeding the performance on offer from the 4700u and mx350 in cs, go you'll be wanting an 1165 g7 laptop with LP ddr4x memory, because there is a significant performance discrepancy between this memory and ddr4 configurations with ddr4.

We are only seeing performance at the level of the dozen 7 4700u, but with LP ddr4x intel pulls ahead of the 4800u at 28 watts. The performance combination of intel's, high frequency, fast Xe, GPU and strong single thread performance allows the 1165 g7 to be far faster for gaming. In this title, gears 5 running at 1080p medium settings is very punishing on integrated GPUs at 15 watts. The i7 1165 g7 sits between the dozen 7, 4, 700u and 4800u in terms of performance, but at 25 watts. The intel processor is substantially faster, offering a 15 higher average frame rate than the 4800u, even when using the slower ddr4 memory option.

It's also faster than NVIDIA's mx350, similar story in f1 2019 at 15 watts. The 1165 g7 sits between the 4700u and 4800u. In terms of performance, although it requires LP ddr4x memory to get there, both products fall short of NVIDIA's mx350 at 25 watts, though, especially with LP ddr4x memory. Intel is clearly the faster option with about a 20 lead on the 4800. U and NVIDIA mx350, and finally, we get to rainbow six siege at 1080p medium settings we're at 28 watts.

The 1165 g7 delivers a really playable experience around the 60 fps mark quite a bit ahead of AMD's best dozen 7 apes. This lead holds true at 15 watts as well, although only with lpddr4x memories. Again ddr4 is quite a hindrance on intel's integrated, GPU performance due to far lower memory. Bandwidth. Combining these data points for gaming suggests that in the higher power class with lpddr4x memory, the 1165 g7 is at worst around the mark of a dozen 7 4800u and in the best cases, 30 faster or more ddr4 configurations will be worse.

Then, at 15 watts, tiger lake isn't as efficient and will likely fall between the 4700 and 4800 you, which all things considered, is still a very competitive result for intel before getting into the conclusion. Let's look at some overall performance comparisons. The i7 1165 g7 is a substantial upgrade on the i7 1065 g7 at the higher 28 and 25 watt power configurations, especially for designs that have both the same core count. Intel are offering 20, better multi-thread performance and upwards of 30 percent, better single thread performance in some workloads, plus a much faster GPU at 15 watts. The margins are much narrower with 15, better single thread, performance and 10, better multi-thread performance in typical workloads, that's still a gain, but points to intel's, 10?nm, superfine, being more optimized for 28 watt power classes versus 15 watts, that's evident even in intel's own graphs, comparing sunny cove and willow cove, where the gap between these designs grows as voltage increases.

So what we end up with is quite a large difference between the 15 watt and 28 watt configurations, with gains seen even in single threaded workloads, as hitting that 4.8 gigahertz mark will require more than 15 watts on a single core, comparing the 1165 g7 to AMD's, more commonly used dozen, 7 4700u processor. These parts, trade blows AMD's design is faster for multi-thread performance, often substantially. So, given the core count discrepancy, however, the 1165 g7 is up to 25 percent faster for single threaded workloads and that leads to better performance in areas like office applications and photoshop. The 1165g7 is also faster for hardware acceleration like in premiere or da Vinci. However, the gap between tiger lake and the 4700d shrinks at the lower power class, with AMD able to claw back some wins.

On occasion, it's much the same when pitting the 1165 g7 up against AMD's dozen 7 4800u, the 4800 used lead in multi-core tests grows quite a bit when adding a SMT. However, the 1165 g7 is still the faster processor for single threaded tasks and accelerated workloads again at 15 watts. The margins are more in AMD's favor, but intel is still able to provide better performance in some key workloads. All right, so you've seen all the benchmarks time for what I hope will be a short conclusion, but will likely be much longer than I'm expecting the core i7 1165 g7 is one of intel's, better CPUs, to hit the market in the last five years. Both intel's desktop and mobile.

CPU offerings have stagnated for quite some time, more so on the desktop side, but there has been criticism across all areas of intel, CPU, division, and rightly so. For the most part, the 1165 g7 presents the most substantial gains over the direct prior generation since baby lake refresh, which bumped intel's u-series mobile lineup from 2 to 4 cores. This is down to significant improvements across all areas of the chip.10 nanometer superfine has allowed intel to substantially increase CPU frequencies versus ice lake, and this leads to much better single thread and multi-thread performance. Given these gains are seen at the same voltage level, the Xe GPU is even better providing an enormous performance leap on the 1065 g7. This is complemented by a strong set of platform features like thunderbolt, PCI, 4.0 and improvements to the meteor engine and other areas. The gains over ice lake are largest in the higher power configuration which, for this generation is 28 watts.

It's clear why intel has placed so much focus on this TDP up configuration as the 1165 g7, isn't nearly as impressive at 15 watts. In some instances, intel requires the extra power to beat AMD's zen 2 based dozen apes, with dozen generally being the more efficient design for lower power systems at 15 watts in the battle between tiger lake and dozen Renoir. The talking point that continually bobs up is the CPU core count. AMD fans love to dunk on intel for only producing a quad-core design for ultraportable laptops compared to AMD's 8 core design, but that's being pretty unfair to intel. In my opinion, as the 1165 g7 has other strengths, which are very relevant for the thin and light notebook market in a lot of these simple every day, lighter tasks that buyers generally use an ultraportable laptop for intel provides better performance thanks to much higher single thread performance.

The cryo7 1165 g7 is faster than AMD's dozen, 7, 4700u or 4800u for things like web browsing app loading, Microsoft, office, apps photo editing in photoshop and even some accelerated encoding work. These are most of the core workloads for an ultraportable laptop design. I mean, generally, you wouldn't do say, bio-based rendering on a laptop, whereas on a desktop. That's obviously a much more important test. How much faster than AMD we are looking at depends on the workload the power configuration and the dozen 7 CPU in question.

But generally I was seeing 10 to 20 more performance in these apps, which is a decent difference. AMD is able to shave off quite a bit of that margin. If we're talking about 15 watt designs with the 1165 g7, going up against the dozen 7 4800u, but unfortunately for AMD, the 4800u is a bit of a rare beast. Intel are more often going to be competing against the far, far more common dozen 7 4 700. U, which itself is still reasonably rare, given supply constraints and the 1165 g7 is able to pull further ahead versus that design.

Intel is able to complement the everyday workload package with better integrated gaming performance again, especially at the higher TDP. So if the main things you do on your laptop are web browsing office, app productivity photo editing and a bit of light gaming, then the cry7 1165 g7 is the better mobile processor to get. I suspect this will cover a large portion of ultra-thin laptop buyers, so, while I'm sure intel would love to be able to offer eight cores, they don't really need to be competitive. On the other hand, AMD's dozen, 7 apes with eight cores, are substantially faster for any heavily multi-threaded CPU limited work, while intel may be 10 to 20 faster for basic tasks. Am dare over 50 percent faster in multi-threaded tests, which easily makes a 4 700.

U or 4.800 you better. If the apps you use hit a lot of CPU cores people that want a super portable laptop for code, compilation, compression work, data crunching in Excel or bio-based, video encoding should all look to dozen and if you are specifically after an ultra-thin, say 13-inch design that operates at 15 watts. You can also throw in a few more wins like in premiere and in some games, and this brings me back to something I said in my reviews of dozen 4000 apes am dare able to offer transformative performance for ultraportable laptops, bringing what used to be h, series 45 watt performance that required more bulky laptops into nice. Thin and light designs, I can't really say the same about the chores 7 11 65 g7, because the multi-thread performance simply isn't there so ultimately, right now, there is no single best choice for an ultraportable laptop between the core i7 1165 g7 and a dozen 7 APU. It will come down to how you use your laptop and what matters most to you personally- and this is just my opinion- I don't really use my laptop for a lot of heavy processing work.

That's what my desktop is for. So the basic web browsing and say light photo editing, work that the 1165 g7 offers is probably what I'd be after, but I can still see dozen being attractive, especially for people like coders, and I also expect dozen laptops to generally be cheaper, which is a whole other element to factor in a couple of final notes to round this one out. First, one is that we only focused on performance in this review. We didn't talk about any other aspects to the platform, in particular battery life, which is difficult to test. Given the differences between individual laptop models, you should look to specific laptop reviews from other people when choosing a laptop based on battery life, while getting more performance at the same power level generally leads to better battery life.

As you can do more within a charge, it doesn't tell you much about idle power and all those things. So again, you should read reviews. Secondly, intel right now and for the last decade, has had the more mature laptop ecosystem, while dozen was a step in the right direction. For this a massive step in the right direction, there are still very few premiums, ultra-thin AMD designs, while intel is used in every major high-end laptop from nearly every brand think, Dell XPS racer, blade, hp specter and so on, combined with things like thunderbolt support. This is a big factor in intel's favor and that may sway you more towards team blue.

Thirdly, we are hearing AMD's, zen 3 apps for laptops are not far away, I'd be expecting them in the first quarter of 2021. So while tiger lake may be the superior platform for single thread and GPU performance right now, that could change. In a few months, especially given what we've seen from zen 3 on the desktop, we'll keep an eye out for that one, but obviously this doesn't help you if you want to buy a laptop right now and lastly, I just want to touch on intel's marketing. Again I criticized intel's launch presentation for showing intel destroying AMD in niche accelerated workloads like AI upscaling and a premiere test. That's clearly hardware accelerated on intel and not an AMD.

This sort of highly cherry-picked data is really not required to sell a product and people, at least in our enthusiast community, don't buy it tiger. Lake has plenty of strong points like we've shown throughout this review. There is no need to punch down just focus on the strengths in realistic workloads and be honest about the product. Anyway, that's it for this review of the core i7 1165 g7, big thanks to BMG and checker, for sending out some of the laptops that we used for testing in this review. I was actually very impressed with the BMG core 14, the combination of the 1165 g7 and that GTX 1650 GPU make it a really powerful laptop, I think, and quite useful for people that do say premiere editing on the go.

So that's definitely one to be on the lookout out of the bunch that we tested here today, we'll be back soon to test the 1185 g7. That's right, the 1185 g7 we've got a laptop with that in it to test soon and then, hopefully later on not quite sure when, but we will be getting to testing core i5 models in this lineup as well. Just to complete the sort of tiger-like look for this set of reviews so yeah. I hope you guys enjoyed this one. It's been a long one, lots and lots of testing.

This has been weeks of work to get this one done and then weeks more work of coordination to get all the laptops in for testing so long. One thanks for supporting us in places like Patreon or float plane, uh, big shout out to you guys. That's it I'll catch you in the next one. You.


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