Pixel 3, Razer Phone 2 Impressions: The WeeklyS5E32 By Booredatwork.com

I don't know we alive, people walk him back to the weekly episode 32. It's been a while aka a week, and we're here with the show joining me and my usual host signing off with the one, and only the man wearing a sweater. The man ready for fall, Sam, a gay black Iron Man, good yeah. He was drinking some tea too. By the way, so you might see him sip some tea there and joining us here is Mr. Warren Bowman from BY ACCM alright thumbs up.

Let's do this quickly, yes and finally, the man who I didn't see in LA the one and only white back till I'm old and boring decrepit, but I had a crazy early call. The morning after the Razor event, so I was not able to drag my ass DK after okay, you got to hang out with TK yeah by proxy. It was almost like we got to hang out together and talk about that new phone yeah I kind of felt it in the ether somewhat. You know, just like my spirit is permeating. Okay, look that bulls his not gonna work all right.

Let's kick it up guys a couple of uselessness, --is first, one which is on the list they apologize at them is the fact that it's closing now Google+ there was a half. Oh, the reason. Why is definitely a uselessness? Absolutely, and there was a hack we did no rapport or address, and we'll, he found out when they said they were going to close it down. Hmm, they're closing it, though, which is a good thing. No I mean come on.

Let's just be practically. We just like every other service right there, Oak didn't, let us know, and now they felt like the amounts will disclose it and just toss it underneath the rug, a satyr of with you want. What do you? What do you think about that level of you this there I it's its the end to a tragically long saga, I mean to Warren's point? Yes, it's at this point. It's a good thing that they're just shutting it all down. It is forcing me to do it faster than what they were gonna.

Do it anyways. This is a woefully neglected platform there, every attempt that they'd made to making it competitive like forcing people to use YouTube and combining it with Google+, made everything worse. It just goes to show that you could be like one of the most profitable and powerful companies on the planet, and you can still fail to figure out how social media works. I think the reason why this qualifies as a uselessness and not a relief, though, is yet again. Companies like Google, like Facebook, like Amazon, are going to increasingly find push back to the relationship between advertisers, the consumers who use their platforms and data security data privacy issues and to shutter this shutter Google+, because of a massive breach with very little disclosure to the people that were still on Google+ to the people that have their Google accounts tied into Google+ as a platform for activities and then to not even bring that up while they're, showing off security on the pixel is, is just a awful look all the way around, and this is again another example of one of these companies that needs to be taken to task for they're, not treating this information with the attention it deserves.

Sam Heather, wrong window apples, try to show something else, and I showed the wrong thing by bad. Hopefully, we didn't get to see your browser history, I was just I was trying to show a GIF of the basically Mot tram an apple dropping. Is that the summary of what's happened to Google+? Somebody finally finished it off true, but as have thoughts, it's like everything one said, but also the fact that this is Google, showing it would much rather sweet stuff under the rug than address it was a ability that could have exposed about half a million people. We don't know what level of information people had access to. We don't know what kind of information at all was exposed, but Google decided, oh we're, just going to shut Google+ down.

This is a great time to do that, because even the Google execs haven't used Google Plus in years or ever forced everyone, and then it basically gets hacked or has a vulnerability that they kind of hide and then, instead of telling people exactly what happened. They'd be basically switched it on Caracas, hello, that's what Google+ is done. That's a little of fun! That's a huge fail from Google and I think even the Senate I think the Senate uh. What committee is this is the Commerce Committee actually wrote a letter to Google telling them that just criticizing him? What how do you address it? Because Google gave the testimony to the committee and did not mention this vulnerability. It criticized them on how basically they didn't.

Let people know about the vulnerability when it happened, and you would think that after we've had things like Facebook hack after we've had things like the credit score. What's the cold again experience right, Experian at Google would be a little more cognizant to the fact that it's not whether you get hats or not. It's how you basically communicate this to you users, and then we do just seem to you, know to not be very I, would say sophisticated all aware of the kind of impact this could have. You know when you don't communicate properly, big feel for Google there yep Warren, yes, so I think this will sum it up for you, that's exactly what they are a giant Bell on all front of this. Not only did they conveniently use, this is a way to get rid of I, think what's a truly sore spot for them and in Google+ I think that this is more like they're, pretty bitter about this.

This whole thing they didn't disclose it. They try to sweep it on the wrong as fast as they could and instead of handling it properly. Another example of big companies and not properly handling people's data accordingly, to what it is and given that Google+ tended to have a lot more information than your average social media, specifically lady Google+ could have addresses it could have job. History could have full names phone numbers, all the sorts of things in there, since they were mixing that, along with other thing else, within your Google profile, now because I think about when you put in a new contact in Gmail, you know put in that email address. You just get all the information that was tied to that account through Google+ and other people's info.

That's even the more important thing, no Jan yeah and just freely sharing that around and then allowing this hack to sort of happen and sweep it under the rug. This is the reason why they did because they don't want anybody to really look at this and go oh crap. You know this was this is pretty bad, because not enough people use Google+ even know that information was there. So it's a big L from Google. They can never put out a social network again, but this is kind of it.

Any attempts to like to try and like to do this again will get sucked up just like the vacuum that you can hear in the background. That's very true: I want to kind of move quickly, move to Facebook and the fact that realize that their latest hack resulted in 29 million users. Information exposed. Now, if I'm not mistaken, this is the previous hack that they just mentioned recently that had a lot of people exposed the 50 million in general exposed in terms of handling. Do you like the handling? Because again, this is a hack that happen recently.

Facebook announced it as soon as possible, at least I'll put it that way, and then they've now come out to say that yeah there were 29 million users exposed I do know on my Facebook, because my I had to reset my account that day, each time I log in I get a pop-up at the very top that keeps telling me about whatever is happening or things that to do, and things like that I just wonder what he experiences. What you guys think about the fact that it was this, you know then least twenty-nine million uses info was exposed and how Facebook is hadn't. I started with Sam, sorry, Warren I think it was hammer, Facebook did a great job communicate and that shows that Facebook, basically, maybe it's not good guy Facebook, but Facebook is aware of a beam of scrutiny that it's on it right now, so it's in the best interest to be as transparent as possible. Now this turns out that it's not as bad as initially thought this, but it was fifteen million before yeah. Now, it's a million.

So, yes, it's not as bad as originally thought, but it's still twenty-nine million people. You know so yeah they handled it. Well, they did it communicated. Clearly they were good to basically I guess they forced people to change passwords. They mail it did they.

They made people aware of exactly what was going on and for that I'm like okay, good job Facebook. The problem is, you know, Facebook wants to be the Guardian or the consolidation avoid social information. They need to do better, because this is not the first time of breaches happen. This is not the last time it would happen, but you just need to be a lot better in securing people's data Warren. It's not your turn.

Well, I think they did a good job with this as best she couldn't somebody that deals. A nineteen type of you know, he's types of hacks all the time. There's never going to be a hundred percent safe solution for that, and it's not gonna, be anything really totally foolproof. You have to have it I'll tell you guys, you have to be online. If you're going to be online, you have to be on Facebook you're gonna.

Do those things you're going to understand that hacking and these things are going to be a part of this world and one you have to hold these companies accountable to proactively and constantly Teuton your data accordingly and informing you of these things that are happening into to give you the tools to protect yourself as good as you possibly can as well too, because really the only safest way you can have a BS from things like hacking. This one never put it online into unplug the network, cable from your phone, a firm grip on the back of your PC and put your foot all your other devices in airplane mode, never go online. If you really want to be that fully protected can be tracked, you can still read the electromagnetic signal from your screen, and you can use that to basically reconstruct the image on your screen. Tell me: let's go man enhance too much black American, it can be done, and this has been you've been able to do that since sound like you to do it, yeah yeah! Well, getting back to Facebook, they think they handled a sophistic. They immediately remedied.

The issue announced it already announced that they had the remedy for it and then proceeded afterwards to tell you the would have the results of the outcome or sort of the final information about us kind of standard way of going about things. When these type of things happen is information has to be released at a certain pace and I think they did a good job of doing know. Cyber things, one of the things I wish they would push more- is telling people to two-factor authentication to damn Facebook accounts and profiles and stuff, like that. They don't do that enough, and they should be pushing that more to further lock down accounts, prevent people from getting hacked and and and and and so on, so I think they did a good job with it, but I wish they would push more and telling people how to better, lock and lock themselves down more, which I think is what they're not pushing enough of yet won yeah. I'm salmon warren have some of this up really well.

If we look at Facebook's previous behavior, when we look at the threats that have faced this platform, I think that this is about is best and outcome, as we could have hoped, or for Facebook jumping into this and trying to rectify the situation to Warren's point specifically. This is another example of a situation where it would be nice if we could shift how we do business on the Internet away from everything being ad, supported or ad based, so that your data is the product that Facebook sells like we said we were talking about last week, I forget exactly how it came up, but you know it would be interesting to see if we could create like a tear of the internet, where I could pay Google for all of these awesome services and completely opt out of being the data that they sell. You know if we, if we could re-examine our relationships with these kinds of companies, because I think in our current state we're going to find that this is an ever losing battle like you cannot win this fight. Every single data breach every single exploit every single situation that a Facebook or a Google or an Amazon runs into they're going to face because their business model depends on their security being purposely leaky, and it's going to depend their business model depends on consumers not really having easy access or taking advantage of the tools necessary to properly safeguard their data. I think we ultimately completely lose that fight.

You know. Space book cannot win that fight. They can't police all the content, that's going up on their service, and they can't properly lock down everyone's accounts, because their business model depends on and that account being you know, full of holes. So until we change our relationships with these companies, and we change our expectations that everything needs to be for free. Well, when everything is for free, we are the product.

We are the information that that's being packaged and sold to other companies, and we are the data that will be accessed by bad actors in this space. Just like with Google, you know disclosure, better tools, better protections. We want that, but we don't want it enough to give up on some ease of use, the convenience and the price tag of the big 0 dollar price tag that comes with interacting with Facebook. Well, there's a lot of things that have been done that are trying to go away from the things one of the things Google actually internally, actually went away from passwords themselves on their own account to started using these key fobs to be able to connect, and they haven't had a breach since then. So there are, there are steps that are being developed around higher security, with the easiest linked on to the thing to fret authentication doesn't affect anybody other than you just gotta hit a code to get in, but it's it I think, that's more so teaching people how that works and I don't think anybody actually does that out of the sites that I've ever to faced before they don't actually tell you how to do that, so they don't have visibly put it in front of you.

They'll people will never know. Therefore, they won't lock themselves down in that manner. Well, that matter will that matter in an instance if the data gets leaked out or not most likely. Not that's good that, because that not really all the upon how Facebook social security is on there and protecting you, but protecting yourself, but what I'm talking about is in in in leaving it up to the consumer to protect themselves when they've sort of been trained by these companies to do business under stock settings right. You know: look at your Terms of Service in your agreement with Google we're turning off location tracking, doesn't really turn off location tracking we've always been totally clear about when you disable GPS on your phone that you're not really disabling GPS on your phone like we can't, we can't just keep leaving it up to these mega corporations that have every interest in perpetuating a business model.

To also be the only way that we can safeguard data and protections I. Think the legislation that just went up in California is ham-fisted and sloppy when it comes to IOT. But we passed legislation here in California in the last days of Jerry Brown's tenure, to require that when a company sells some sort of smart home device, it either has a unique password, not a generic password, out-of-the-box or as part of the set-up process. It requires the company to force the user to come up with a unique password. That's the kind of step that we need to encourage these corporations to engage with when you sign up for your Facebook account to log into your Facebook account after some type of major breach like this, you need to lead the user by the nose because they're not going to change their behavior on their own they're gonna, try and find the most abbreviated path to just getting back into their Facebook's.

We can't let Facebook be the arbiter of what your value, what your personal data is worth, what you're compromised data is worth and how to best protect that data, that's up to the user, and it needs to be forced in some kind of discussion which ideally shouldn't come from the government, but at Facebook isn't going to do it for themselves, then, unfortunately, the only other recourse we have is some kind of government intervention, and that's the thing I think we've mentioned this several times in the show. If these companies cannot police, if these companies do not have proper protocols, but when these things happen, I don't know what stopped the fuel Facebook Apple and all the other big companies from going out there and saying we're going to start a corporation. Yet, basically, its sole purpose is to secure data across all our networks. Those are they exist, they're, just not forced to use it like the financial institutions are those are. This is almost every financial if you want to work in and if you want to work in and specially a hedge fund, private equity or anyone else, you have to go through.

Third party security: that's what saying I don't know what's stopping these companies from the government has enforced it in this evening? Don't listen to me if they don't basically police themselves, then! Yes, this is the road the government to come in and protect consumers at the end of the day. So that's exactly what's going to have to happen, and that I'm already seeing that already having here into the next thing we're going to have. If, basically, people are gonna start discussing the fact these companies are doing so many things that they need to start getting broken up, and it's gonna regulation is going to come down, and my fear is that this is going to stifle innovation. So it's really not going to be the government's fault. When we can't do certain things and infinite, it is going to be the Facebook's Google's, Amazon's and apples of the world with your continual breaches do mean nothing whatsoever to basically secure consumer data in a way that basically makes it impossible for people to hack.

It's its just really going to be their fault. Well, since it seems like according to Sam, Microsoft is free in this one I'm, not so the guys at Microsoft are like there were a couple of big announcements this week, starting off with Google finally showing off officially the device that has been leaked more than any other device this year. Okay I got about five minutes, so I have to head out. Let's make this quick, but let Morin just go yeah, so the the pixel three at basic Excel plus steals add some of their devices as well. So Warren your thoughts, not going to lie.

The most interesting thing was that display 450 bucks that little google hub thing yeah far more interesting. Then the phones will the phones they what they were. They matched everyone I suspect. Everyone complained about the notch over at A-Team. Every video will complain about it and act like it's.

The worst thing on planet Earth, let's get over people notches exist. That's just what's going to happen, because only two people control Hardware direction in this world of Apple and Samsung, and until somebody else gets out there and does it, and it's just not going to change. Anything so deal with what it is, and until the total market changes around the think the leader device is a price decently. Well, I wish they had more storage on and, since he can't add, add additional storage to it, but Google's all about the cloud and throwing everything up today, or so. That's not surprising that it's there, the display the whole Google home display was really the most interesting thing.

I think they put up there because 149 bucks. It does pretty much everything the Lenovo display does outside you know, video chat, although it is, it is much smaller though it's its yeah, it's a tiny device from what. If people have said, I'm actually seeing it yeah, it's pretty um on the small side, but it should be pretty good, we'll see when that kind of comes up and that's kind of my thoughts on it all right, cool all right, so one has run through and whenever you feel like leaving Warren, let us know, but thank you, Sam, hey. What do you think? What do you think about the pixels little uh I? Really don't like the Excel I, don't like the Excel, because I don't know if it's worth the hundred bucks more is what was it two hundred bucks more when all you're getting is a bigger battery and a bigger screen, but I'm not like really. Is it worth it at that point because I'm looking at the the regular pixel three, and it has almost every single feature- that's gonna, be actually I should say yeah, almost every single feature, there's going to be on the three XL it has screen and a bigger battery yeah the battery and the display resolution I think are the only two different things between those two devices.

So, but you still get all the software insurance, that's going to have the Oh. What I'm going to call it I remember what the name is, but the anti uh. What's a cool telly, telly market or features on there, which I think is going to be awesome, one, basically, where you can ask you where it answers your phone, so you don't have to answer it, and it basically tells you what you're saying if you want to answer you just pick it up. Well, so cool I can start getting that spam for calling you know some Chinese. You know nobody goes I mean, but it still answers the phone for you right.

It doesn't actually answer it per se. It's basically there I talking to this person, and it's you have a readout on your screen and if you say something interesting or if it's a real person, you can just pick it up. I mean I get, but you can just let it run if you don't want to deal with it. No I do like that aspect, user that we already have that uh, not that we have the fact that I can see who's. Calling me, and I'm I know even like I, don't what the problem is.

But the thing that bothers me about that is that that is a server-side solution for spam and I pay for project Phi, so I don't get that it should be rolled out everywhere. You really should yeah exactly I mean like I'm, giving Google money for the backbone service that enables me to use to have phone calls and stuff and we're looking at probably getting Maria motor, and we won't get that because that's a pixel service. This is one of the frustrating things about talking. Pixels are separating the phone from software, where software could be ubiquitous for all the Google and polio, and you're very right in terms of hardware. This is the least exciting hardware you can, you be.

The think of software. Wise is where they are, but you're right. This should be across every single Android device, because it's oh yeah and the thing that really even really makes it worse, is the fact that you start looking at other features like the camera and how much they don't you're doing server-side on the camera on basically processing as well and all the other stuff. You, like you, can really give all of this. They can keep that I'm, happy I'm, saying all the features they're.

All the software features they have. They really could give it to all the Machine. It's not about to me and I learn yeah. Actually, that will be a thing because they're just gonna there's nothing, there's no amount of cameras you could put on a phone, it's going to beat that out there just isn't. No, there is because this camera does one thing very well: portrait mode.

Low light is still grainy as okay and the video it is the bottom line. I think it's pretty good. Did you see the image the image they took? The low-light image my friend I took yesterday, but didn't go to the cloud and process it properly. Yes to that point, if we're talking hardware to hardware this, this will not move the needle on any p20 Pro owners in the very same way that I'll be talking about it at the end of this podcast but I. Finally, wrapped up my iPhone 10s camera review, it's 30 minutes of digging into these samples and computational photography can get you a long ways.

You do some really exciting things, but you're still never really going to unseat a hardware advantage like a substantially larger image sensor. It's you just can't beat physics, yet we're on the road there. Eventually you will Oh Google is they're. Going to find that way. It's not right now, but as long as that machine I can keep learning and learning and everyone up.

So it keeps uploading their photos to google photo for free because they give you free storage, for it keep learning and learning. Over and over again, they're going to beat everyone, and that's just what it's going to be but see. I, disagree, yeah, I, don't think it would be everyone in that sense, because at the end of the dates, it's also the also calculation is: how do you get these sensors better I? Can you move us to a slightly larger sensor because when you combine both yes, but think about that as the sensors get better in the smaller packages, they can add that to their phones plus a and that comes out with it yeah, but they're going to beat everyone, but why we did right while we've all companies just came out with a sensor, I just smokes everyone, not the every Google, had an ID? Last year, I was like okay, the best camera. Why I was like here's, the p20, and we went Jesus? Thank you. That's what happens and you do.

Okay, that's now and now, but I'm saying down the line. I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about 3-5, I have to get smaller. It's its the same! Look it's the same thing! You're talking software side, I'm talking hardware side, the win is the middle is when both of them come together. Right, that's where the win is and until Google decides to actually playing the hardware side more, they will still keep doing because it's philosophy aspects their philosophies in, which is why the design of the phone is the same.

I mean it's polished, but is to say, and it's not a part of design of the phone of the same is because they attract iPhone users with it. That's why the design of the phone and the laziness of the notch they could not even explain that. Sorry at one I caught you of I'm, sorry anything, but I got a tick off, guys didn't, explain the notch. They didn't actually explain why I thought. Maybe they were gonna, go the same route as Apple with the facial recognition right, which requires more sensor, so I, actually to your point, I think that's actually worth digging into just a little.

I think I didn't want to just sort of front load. This episode, because I, knew we were gonna, be talking about this, but I kind of feel, like the entire press event was a baby uselessness, I mean seriously I'm I'm I didn't get to go in person. Unfortunately, I'm just working too many jobs here that I can't turn down because I like paying rent and eating food to go and travel and celebrate Google on my own dime when they start off a press event by taking shots at YouTubers who have been talking about pixel leaks and then acting like they've got. Some big reveal oh yeah, everything just yeah, and then they had nothing. They had nothing to back that up, so all they did was take shots at YouTubers at the beginning of their press conference, with nothing to disclose that we didn't already know about it.

I was hoping to hear something new about just to pick the regular pixel three without the notch or whatever, like oh wow, it's a full screen on the front. Oh my god, nope. They completely ran away from discussion of things like design because they didn't even disclose the price of the XL in the press event: MMM Excel at whatever. What does it start at $100 yeah? Yes, for the smaller disclosure? No detailing no pricing, above that just the starting price right there, because this phone has already been talked to death. The enthusiasts face, so what was the point of reference reviews with the actual phone, but we're in the middle of this press conference, and they'll be talking, and the presenters would be talking about features and then just kind of shrug.

It was no excitement for what they were trying to talk about for what they were trying to show off, and then they would just go into like in the middle of it. For the smart display, whatever it's called, they just did a set-up guide. They basically just walked us through the setup and first use of that product like the least interesting way to disclose exactly this. This was a terrible presentation from top to bottom Google. I.

Think just further demonstrated for me how ineffective they've been at building an Apple or even a surface style hardware ecosystem. If that had been my experience, if I were thinking about switching ecosystems like moving from iOS to Android or moving away from Galaxy phones to consider a pixel that would have left such a sour taste in my mouth, why would I want to do business with this company for any kind of hard I mean you do make a very good point? Granted I wasn't there at the pixel event, but you mean the one thing you know we talked about it with panels. Right is, we know, Microsoft was doing a refresh aka, it's not sexy to do a refresh because they're very expecting. We also heard that there was no USB type-c, but that the way he presented it right was. This is your life.

This is what you want, inspirational aspirational and, like I said, I was there going man I mean I, know, there's no type C but is Mac. Who, though, know like tell me already I get it? You know it's the same thing they should have done here. We's been linked to death, but you know go to that photography aspect that you're you've done so well write and sell why this camera is for your life, while your everyday capture, you know this kind of things and not just oh. We can do this with these numbers. It's almost writing.

Look and look at what Google did you want to talk about camera? Specifically, they literally did the side by side. Our phone is better than the iPhone cat. I will give. I would give TLD credit for this. Because I saw his video and he went.

Okay I know that's a pixel, but that is not an iPhone 10s shot, because that that is just too dark. I, don't know what that is like the way the was framed was regardless, let's even take because, we know that they always play like they live absolute best example of a photo from our phone in the absolute worst way that you could get a photo from an iPhone. Let's just take that off the table. Google can't even figure an argument for why their phone should stand alone. Like every time you like I, think Samsung commercials are funny, but I think it does a disservice to Galaxy fans.

When you constantly compare your product to the iPhone, because I think it just legitimizes the iPhone is the standard, yeah phones against every time. You do something like that. You basically cede the ground to Apple. Furthermore, you basically give Apple exactly the kind of marketing credibility that they claim when they go out to say that their product is the best of whatever tier that they're working in if Google can't figure that out. What are we doing here like? What are we talking about we're talking about a couple? Nifty software tricks hardware, which really hasn't evolved beyond the nexus with chipset bumps, and that's it and higher and higher price tags to accomplish the basics? Why am I spending $800 for a slightly smoother experience of just covering the basics? This is getting silly even worse when you, when you think, was I, think someone was asking.

How much is the pixel to now when you realize that, for what $200 less I think the pixel 2 is $5.99 now right for $200 less, you could probably get a device that would probably keep you over for another year or two and could probably do all the things that all the software tricks that this phone can do. Dana like here, okay now we see why Google is basically keeping the software to the bit so 300 pixel PBL, because if it does release it across all Android device really doesn't have an argument for why you should buy these devices yeah well. I think this would definitely go to one of the points' warren was making, especially when it came to wearables and the such is we're going to see a further bifurcation of what features land on a pixel and what Android gets in the rest of the ecosystem. I think we're going to see a starker fracturing there, because Google is priming us for fuchsia. The Google is priming us for a completely closed up more iPhone, like Chloe, a walled garden ecosystem to walk back some of the issues that they've been having with Android.

That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Are you start positioning this now with a couple fun little calling features, some software improvements for the camera and then once you make that transition over you get to your have to point to fuchsia. Is this new thing now? This is how Google's going to do business, and if anyone wants to make fuchsia, it needs to look exactly like this I, don't even know if they're going to do you think they're gonna, let other people dabble in the future. In the fuchsia ecosystem, no they're, they're, going to I mean I, didn't even like where OS yeah be like. Where else the most you can do, is you can have an app that do you know app type things? You know that you want to segment end, but you are going to be not like.

Where is like locked out, which is what has I think is pissed off a lot of manufacturers because they were good I. Think Google promised them not variety, but they promised them something that was going to be updated constantly. That will add a lot of new features as well. So you don't have to do it will do it for you, and then they haven't received any of that, and they can't even add that themselves because it's closed, you know, so I think that yeah anyway, so there was the pixel. There was the no one talked about the pixel slates, the surface kit, never mind I, actually I asked because you know what while Warren was saying you like, he was really digging on that screen.

I found a lot of people on Twitter who were kind of pissed off about Google mandating specific hardware like cameras on other smart displays and then backtracking from it on their own. Acting like they were the purveyors of your privacy and video calling is kind of make I use an Android tablet when I want to Skype or when I want to call in hangouts with my family and I want Led to be able to run around and talk to relatives and stuff like that. I can pick up a cheap Android tablet and just leave it in my kitchen, and then it's not a base computer. It's something! I can pick up and interact with and move around and move it from a kitchen really easily to another part of the room like there. I already have this solution so that then, when they switched over to the Chrome, what is it the pixel slate? Do we think that Android? Do we think that Google can crawl back into a tablet discussion now, Google kinda gave up on Android for larger screens? This is we can come back with Chrome OS yeah I mean I.

Think they can. This is this. Is a is a surface black right because you can get keyboards for it. You can basically get like a folio, for you can get a pen for it. So this is.

This is a surface play and I think they could dabble in this market I think they can I. Think we made a mistake of launching this device with the pixel. I really think that granted you know there were some people who talked about it and said this looks nice I'm very interested I think they should have taken a playable firm surface and made it true. Just events for this is why? Because the thing about Chromebook is not just the hardware, it's also the fact that there are many people like me, you go. Why am I using the browser? I still don't get it like.

What's the point, so they need an event where they either have that device, because and either a slew of the other, all the cheaper devices and say this is the pinnacle of what Chrome OS should be with the pixel slate. Everybody can copy this. Our OEMs can do what they need to do, and here are some entry-level points, and this is why it's so good for you, because the problem with Chrome OS is not the fact that it's they have their without solid hardware. They've had an I-5, even some cheaper ones have like quite threes, I-5 is in there. It doesn't need it.

It's the fact that people ask: why am I using a Chrome browser till they actually figure that out, then that's where we'll change, and I think also doing stuff way? Furthermore, it's separate also and adding project this game streaming project it just announced. You know that you're streaming assassin's creed, the latest one on your Chrome browser. That is something that, if you did an event solely you could have height and put it together. I went oh disappointing that that wasn't a part of this train wreck of a presentation, because that is generating so much positive buzz like um. Do you guys listen to Jeff kana ta's gaming podcast yeah, like they went off on it for almost an entire episode? This? Oh, they were really reviewing Assassin's Creed, but a huge chunk of the conversation was what's a cool game project.

I can't remember what the game streaming service is. This is their game streaming service, but um, but this could be the the Netflix for gaming that we've wanted and especially for people who might have been pushed out of nicer games experiences because of console prices or gaming. PC prices like 60 frames per second decent graphics. If you have a fast internet connection, you're playing Assassin's Creed and that you don't install anything, you don't load anything the transitions don't take nearly as much time as they take on an Xbox when you're going through different game modes, and you just play the game. I care about fidelity and I care about having a beast of a PC and I care about having cool boxes connected to my TV screens, but there's something really compelling about sort of leasing.

A high quality gaming experience through some sort of Netflix like service, like I've kind of gotten over the need to have the highest 4k fidelity when I watch movies, because Netflix is just so much more convenient it's more convenient than dealing with Blu-rays this. This is a huge step towards making that happen. I just signed up for the innings at all yeah I mean I'll share the link for you guys, but I want to ask this question, especially because that's this is the next race. For next year, Microsoft will start invites in spring for project cloud X cloud we've got in video who I decided invites for there's earlier this year. We've got, and we know that PlayStation is gonna, be working on something else: yeah and then, and then we've got Google with this one as well.

I'll be very interesting to see how it all pans out all around I, think I. Think Google has a nice play, especially the way you described it, but I think also I personally, think that they will not succeed just because it is limited to I, don't know, I think it's I think we limited to Chrome, but I also think that, because it's because of that, it would be harder to play on your phone I. Just think this is the first step, because it's not just that it's limited to Chrome. This is still a premium experience because it's limited to a fast internet connection MMM, but you need at least a 20 20 s, the 20 V, a 20 25 megabits down sustained, not burst order. Oh yeah, it's the same across the board for all the other services, because I tried invidious.

Now that's the thing Google does well. Google does well when they basically have like a service, an online service that you're trying to push. They do that. Well, they may screw it up later on. But my bet here is even video or Microsoft I picked Microsoft, because right now, online gaming works well because of one thing they have, as your servers that is running about 60 percent of every fortnight is a decimal reason.

Why that one is well automatically eliminates some huge talking points about like console power when you're running server-side, and you're already targeting people that have the disposable income for a game subscription service, a nice TV and a fast internet connection, then Xbox as a service I mean that's something I've been talking about for a while, there's no reason to buy an Xbox, but you can make, which is why they started. Xbox, has a service already serviced exactly with like the way that they've been incorporating Xbox services into Windows 10? So my take on this would be. Google can do this first, but while consumers have been primed to utilize and trust Google services, they don't pay for any of them. Yeah, I don't know that Google can do this as another one of their free services. You would need to charge for this kind of Rackspace kind of processing power and that's something that Microsoft Sony Nintendo steam valve.

All of these companies have already trained their consumers to pay upfront for this kind of stuff and I think that's actually Google can be first, but I think we'll have plenty of time for a Microsoft Sony everyone else in the industry to catch up and then once you can get like a Microsoft game streaming service on Android. That instantly kills whatever Google might be trying to protect around I want to try it. This is not a company called shadow I've been seeing the ads on Instagram about it seems the same thing saying the announced when Nvidia announced theirs, and now it's you can actually pay for the service, while I'm videos still and videos write as beta, because I guess do you just want that data so that you can actually build it out. I want to see how that is, but yeah sorry go ahead. Sam, not just you know, being able to stream games and play games.

I. Think part of what you're trying to do. Also is the corner get inroads into that market on Amazon basically owns right now, which is twitch right twitch. You have to have your system. You have to have all these things another to screen your game with the way this is looking with Google, what's called stream service or was called Google project stream and the Nvidia's it looks as though you'll be able to do these and stream your game while without having to have the hardware at all I, basically cuts the cost of entry to like a twitch kind of ecosystem.

So it's I think it's really the Wild West right now in terms of streaming services and gaming hardware, people are really changing the conversation, but it would be worthwhile to see like one said, are people going to pay for a Google service? Can they deliver this with what 1080p 60 frames per second with a 20 up-and-down international connection? Or can they do it with less? What? What will be your upfront cost to be able to enjoy as a gaming experience using its treatment service now, I agree and speaking of gaming experience, you know the boys at raises. I had a brand-new announcement this week, the race phone and look at that I couldn't yes, this is the brand-new razor phone, as the CEO main calls it flagship. Gaming and I'll put it this way when I first met razor for the briefing on this device, I walked in I said it looks safe, convinced me, that's what I said I had to, and so the just go through some specs in there it's 8:45, as you expect it gigs a ram. The displays improved last year's display was not as bright it's now up to about six hundred and fourteen, it's fifty percent brighter with the display. The speakers also we're not as loud, and it is also about I, would say, 30% louder up.203 decibels is what they say stated: Dolby Atmos to be at most certified as well. I have a speaking test coming.

So don't worry! You see that one there. The battery is a four thousand William battery. They do have chroma lighting at the back, which you can use for notifications as well I didn't they have that on the freaking first one and then in terms of all the software features they have the Racer cortex, which you can actually set the speeds of your processor kind of like a little overclocking if you'll, because your process doesn't run at the max Brock speed anyway, all the time you can set all your games, this kind of things in there, their displays, 120 Hertz, and it is butter smooth. That is something that still you know. It's fascinating to see.

Now it also has those lifestyle features. You've got water resistance, ip67 dust resistance. You also have wireless charging, we've got a while it is just charging Chrome or charging pad. So for all your or your chroma needs. You can just fully rack it up with this device, and the pricing is 99, and they have new cameras using Sony's sensors Sony's class sensor for this year.12 megapixels Oh is also included on the main sensor. So they've done all the things that you expect from my flagship device.

My question is at least from what you heard. What do you think about it? I know you haven't actually tried to advise it, but do you like where they've positioned themselves, if you will III, went hands-on yesterday, okay, I, like a drag TK to lunch, let me play with it first, absolutely adore the hardware build. It feels phenomenal in the hand and I hate it when YouTubers make. That kind of is too vague, like it feels perfect in the hand. You know it feels good like, like our phones used to be made out of razor blades and rusty rebar right, but razor is making a claim.

Razor is making a claim that this can be a phone which elevates mobile gaming and when you put it in your hands, it has a good heft to it and I really like that. It has forehead and chin bezels with speakers. It's not that it's just space, but your thumbs reach over easier than when you try and game on an all screen device. Like my OnePlus X, the OnePlus X is a screamer, nothing slowing down this phone, but it is not fun to play games on this when you're, reaching out to the corners and the edges of your display. Now razor has delivered on exactly their claim of ergonomics and that that's not just dead space that is used space for a premium, a higher quality audio experience for when you're consuming that gaming, when you're consuming that media I love every step that Racer has taken with that former next bit team keeping a design language, that's accessible, that's edgy! That's bold! That doesn't look like any other phone on the market.

Today, they've maintained that sense, while adding those little Racer touches, which should have been on the first phone like chroma lighting, and they're, bringing it into all the specs that we expect to have on a 20-18 phone I'm, just I'm, just waiting for final software, and I'm waiting to see what you can actually pull out of the Qualcomm 845 at the end of the year, as we all know, we're getting ready to start looking at refreshes in the first third of 2019. So the timing on this is a little sensitive. This is a little precious for razor, but so far, every single point that they've made I believe made a good argument for why their phone is the niche phone that it is. If you're, if you're looking at, is going with goal, you can just get some other phone, that's like a general all-rounder or like you could get like a Sony. If you like, boxy phones, then you're missing the point out of what Racer is trying to accomplish here.

If you don't care about a faster refresh rate screen, then immediately ya, move along that they're. Making a specific argument- and that makes me way more excited than a company trying to make yet another generic all-rounder. Does everything kind of well kind of phone I want companies to look at a demographic and say we will make the best device for you here. We just have to accept that there might be compromises somewhere else. Racer has now done that for a second generation we should be taking this product more seriously.

Mobile gaming could be primed for something fascinating over the next year, and now we have a true gaming hardware manufacturer investing even more resources into it. This is where we start examining that claim for real, as opposed to just pretending. Well, I mean I, just got a galaxy same thing, same difference, and you're like that's. That's not it anymore, we're doing something unique here: Ben I, agree, sorry, I, sucked all the air out of that one I was very impressed with the short time that I got to handle the phone I. Just this is I'm.

Okay, I'm a razor anyway right I mean I love, my blade freaking love my blade. So there's a part of me that if anyone wants to walk into the space and do something different, I am so happy, it's that weird funky snake logo I just this looks like it could be- has so much potential I get so excited about potential I just want that to be realized. Okay, the excitement is real. There sorry I will say, though, I'm more impressed with the device because I liked. What's this, you know when SIA was on stage, and he said look you know we wanted to get to that flagship status, because you know, as gamers he's like, and he kind of buddy fits well with razor right.

The audio products feel have that premium finish whether it's the razor blades, whether it's the accessories. You know we mean Sam. You have a couple of those as well right, so you know what you get raises so for the phone they needed to get to that level of saying. Okay, look: we've got everything that your premium phone does, but as a gamer there's something you want right and to your point with the display just at 120. Hertz is just the barrier of entry for you to say: okay.

Yes, this is a gaming device. We all know as gamers when we want to buy monitors you like that refresh rate right, you know. Is this one, ms, you know how many Hertz is the screen, all this kind of stuff, that most other people don't get, but I finally got all the pieces connected for proper g-sync support that stuff matters. It helps like it's so silly, but it does it just it's so pretty ya know it is. It definitely is, and I think they've done a really solid job.

I, like the improvement to the audio here, they said, they've got a better that are processing with the USB type-c adapter there that they have, so I have to see enough that pans out we've got headphones. That also are USB type-c that you can buy a camera. How much that was that should give you better sound, buy from thanks, which of course, they own as well. If you are an audio person, the thanks intro sound is part of the ringtone as well. So you can just throw that in there on your phone, but so, if I like it, I like what they've done and they do have a different color.

Doesn't satin, and I think that one isn't just look so much better, but also it's just some the little touches or things that I think a number of Android enthusiasts. This is not a phone targeted at general consumers. You get it so right when your razor, and you go out there, and you say we don't have to reinvent the wheel if you want to customize your phone or if you want to mess with launchers and home screens and stuff like that, your phone comes preloaded with Nova yeah, so slow Thank, You Addison Ellis was asking about its Nova prime, so you're getting your updates as whenever Nova rolls them out. You know, and because they don't know they don't handle that they don't do software for phone. So I just like from point to point the fact that they're they're making the flagship argument with unique hardware.

There is nothing else like it. You know, I get I, get really lit up about something like LG in the quad AK. It's not because it's just good. There is literally nothing like it and that razor is doing this at an $800 price point that to me is, is an incredible commentary on what a spunky upstart can do when it comes to competition in this space, and it's something I really hope people take seriously instead of just like. Oh, this t9 screen.

So it's not. You know, I hate bezels. You know like again, you're really missing the point out of what this thing, but you know it's fine though I mean he said it again. He was on stage. He goes if you don't like bezels forget it doesn't buy this phone I was, like you know.

Finally, at least a CEO who's, not bullshitting I get it. You know just say what it is like. We don't do notches. We don't like notches because we think it's stupid or is a bezel, a unified, just whet. What is the sound of one hand clapping on it, but here's the thing a Sean Ellis says risen knows how to design a phone for gaming much better than what on the honor play.

Is the issues? Is she or the job me so I can't speak to the Jami and I. Unfortunately, I'm Way behind on honor I'm, hoping to catch up with the 8x I just haven't handled any other phones in a while. The one thing that so the exciting conversation here is I think Racer is delivering the better phone as an argument for gaming over DOG. What's exciting about ASU's knows a sews as a company I mean I. Just recently did four hours of conversation on issues, Intel, ninth, gen, motherboards, etc.

, etc. , etc. , but what's exciting about an DOG phone? Is ecosystem don't necessarily get as excited about that specific phone, but a sews is making a huge argument for turning your phone into the next Nintendo Switch and that's where I think these two companies are coming at opposite ends of the gaming spectrum they're both making a very good argument for mobile gaming, I think they're both making killer arguments, but they are making different arguments. I think the Racer product looks cleaner, looks smoother, more refined, and I love that screen refresh rate, but the accessories package that ASUS is delivering with DOG is extremely formidable and I. Think it's these two companies start facing off.

That's where I think we'll get a really exciting ecosystem bump razor and ASUS ROG vs snakes. That's that's an epic fight in any platform! That's an epic fight for laptops. It's an epic fight for desktops! That's gonna, be an epic fight for phones, yeah Did, says Sam. You are waked as eff. The bezel is a unified notch.

Aha, we need to stick on that. Yes, yes, sound make some t-shirts, but at the end of the day, though, I think great I trust, Racer I get what he's saying about rock I love rock boards. I've been no. No actually I'm really curious to understand this point from Sam. Why? You trust a Seuss a why you trust razor more than a sues razor required next fit, and this is only their second generation product, but a sou has been making before no III get you, but when it comes to basically just design of hardware general design of hardware, I trust, her son, I trust razor more because I've been with razor from the original David, were making the Mamba all the way to not have seen how they've improved I've seen the kind of detail they put into making accessories and then into making computers and now into making phones are like I trust razor, because I know they would put dedication into it.

I like what they sous is doomed I've, never used really nice Sue's phone I just stayed away from a sous phone because when it comes to builds, but I Sue's apart from their internals for like their motherboards I, really don't depend on the sous for anything else, even their screens, which are amazingly good, I, don't get drawn to that I get drawn more to like a sir screens. So it's one of those things. It's like I've used both of them I respect their of their gaming, I would say, prowess or yeah. Yeah, I wasn't always a pedigree. They both have great gaming pedigree, but when it comes to something in my hand that I want to use to play games I would trust razor more because I just have that experience with them that once I take a razor keyboard or a razor mouse or a razor mat, but when I'm using any of those I have no issues with them.

I've always really enjoyed using their products when it comes to gaming, but from a phone perspective. Yes, this is a whole other thing when it comes to like gaming for phones and I. Think to me the biggest part here is the cooling system they're putting in the amp like how they're customizing your cooling. It sets them apart along with the spring. It sets them apart and the whole idea that this is something that could potentially, you know, grow into another like what did what they call it like a flagship gaming device.

Furthermore, it really goes into what we've been saying for a while, which are you're going to have that flagship port for, like basically the road warriors you're gonna. Have that flagship, that's for the creators, and then you are going to have that flagships for those guys. We just want the game on the go which basically hey I travel. A lot. I have a laptop that does everything else, but I need something that keeps my mind engaged.

Why one that's 16-hour flights! You know this is gonna, be for those guys and now sorry just to quickly interject think about all the streaming services right that we just talked about and you have display that's 120, Hertz and you're, like okay, I'm, either using Xbox cloud or Nvidia service or whoever it is I'm now streaming on a device that has audio Qt, not just some dinky speakers in Adobe. At most, you probably will add a gaming. You know preference in there. I've got to display that cakes. Every other displays ask doesn't even matter on there and granted is everything server-side in terms of processing, but the experience is now tuned in to me, holding this device, and I'm curing, and I'm viewing it the way that that game, at least, should have been on my large screen TV or on my desktop.

So in addition to that, I mean because I'm right there with you and I think we can keep putting some of these pieces together is Samsung should be making an argument for DEX. You buy a note. I, don't really care about fortnight on the note, but I love the idea of plugging in one cable and having a desktop style, which is awesome, keyboard, so I'm doing a just little comparison, video for the v40, just v40 versus v30 I like to talk about one-year upgrades. Two companies make a good argument for that. I wrote the script by doing a screen share to my TV on a Chromecast and a little fold-out keyboard and Bluetooth mouse and wrote everything in Microsoft Office without having DEX, but I was still using a much larger display to get that work done all from the phone once we start putting those pieces together, better game streaming, services utilize, something like DEX, but not for productivity software, but for gaming software.

So it looks up to your TV and then you that stream 'less, you know gaming experience, you can pull it back and forth. Racer has a portfolio of phenomenal accessories. Razor and a soup I mean Asus. Keyboards I was using them on Thursday a sous mice and keyboards are actually pretty nice too, but one you have that whole ecosystem packaged presented ready to go, and you could do something really exciting, like razor with USB headphones for your phone. That then connect to that Thunderbolt port on your razor laptop.

That's the seamless kind of ecosystem that Apple only used to be able to do, and now Apple can't even do. We could actually arrive there from gaming companies because of the stuff that they already do well having an amazing broadcaster mic right. You know, like razors, been putting out some pretty decent microphones lately, step by step piece by piece: we've got the entire package ready to go, and a phone can fit really well into that. Just like we only used to talk about gaming laptops and gaming desktops back in the day, I think that's like I said it's a Wild West for gaming. Right now gave me hardware and services.

It really is the Wild, West and I are really looking forward to seeing how this really turns out all right, cool, good stuff. Speaking of interesting hardware, Samsung announced the Galaxy, a 9 that doesn't have just one or two, not even three, but four cameras in the rare, so thoughts guys. Do you think about the night? It's a budget device by the way it's running a Snapdragon, 636 m 0, 666, lat yeah. The cameras are a hundred and twenty degree: altar wide-angle 8 megapixels, f-stop, 2.4, telephoto, 10, megapixels, f-stop, 2.4, main 24, megapixels, f-stop 1.7, and a depth camera 5, megapixels f-stop to point to live focus, so I was I thought the telephoto was the one that would do that, but I guess they're too I mean any thoughts want because I was looking at go. If you go to telephoto, you don't depth camera but I.

Well, no, actually, I do think that there is's some value and having dedicated hardware that matches the main focal length. It's. What I do like about Huawei with monochrome depth isn't quite the same as a good monochrome sensor, but you can use it for better lighting adjustments, better exposure adjustments, and then it should improve. It should hopefully I'm totally guessing here, but it should hopefully improve things like portrait mode from the main sensor. Mm-Hmm portrait mode from the zoom sensor will always be compromised in lower lighting conditions, indoor lighting conditions in at night, but if you fire up a hallway, and you use the wide aperture mode you're using wide aperture from the main, better light sensitive sensor, so a depth sensor paired to that focal length could be a benefit for some of those fun features.

It's its a lot of hardware to add for some of those fun features, but if you're going to do this, if you're going to make the argument and Samsung has been claiming that they're going to back off from delivering every new hardware improvement only to the Galaxy S series first and then let it filter down instead they're going to filter up from the mid-range, then I think this is the right way. To start that conversation, you have the full focal length range that I have on an LG, and now you've also added one of the fun feature pieces of hardware that I really like on matched focal length. Sensors I think that's a killer way to build a mid-range your. The 660 is an awesome. Chipset I love it in my blackberry.

It is plenty capable for getting a majority of your work done in a fashion that doesn't feel painful, or it doesn't feel like you're compromised or laggy. It gets good battery life and now adding fun. Consumer e features to that, and not just compromised mid-range or hardware -. That is an interesting way to attack the mid-range see. My issue here is playing with the v40 one of the things you know LG did was they had to add an extra ISP in there because of the census they had and- and it showed to me my mind goes.

The 8:45 is a great processor. The ISP is good. It's built for two cameras. It's not necessarily built for three, and I thought. I was what I felt with my image in there and then some people argue well, but the p20 Pro has three, but Marc meant there is one, is a monochrome and granted a monochrome is being used and also when they switch when you switch monochrome use.

You're solely using that sensor, so it treats it as either/or right now, yeah in the case. So how is Samsung going to manage this, that we have you're, not wrong? I. Do think that part of what's going to happen here is complication and software services running on the mid-range err phone, but it's just like you know: Android doesn't have any stylus or Wacom digitizer support, so you just have to run a ton of extra services on top of Android. For a note that that might lead, my hypothesis would be is that it should lead to the 660 in a Samsung performing slower than the 660 in a more streamlined phone, but I also have every faith in Samsung as a camera company that they can develop. Custom, firmware and hardware support, because they're, they're pretty good at making cameras, especially delivering at the price tag that this phone's going to arrive at.

We should expect some compromises in performance, but will that be enough to sour someone on a phone that has a unique feature, a unique camera setup like this and that I, don't think so. I think they're going to do fine, I think the compromises we're asking consumers to make will not be deal-breaker. They'll be dealbreakers to tech enthusiasts you'll have YouTubers, you know twisting their hair out and gnashing of teeth and underwear getting you know, sucked up into butt cracks boy Wow the actual people who buy these phones and use these phones I think that they're actually going to enjoy Samsung's solution for camera management, Sam any thoughts, um, no, not really I. Think four cameras on the phone seems overkill to me, but hey Wow, if it's a mid-range I guess it's a this. Is the right place to play around with features like this right? Let's see what camera to have right, the fun level right, the last thing and space saying it before the reason why depth sensor might be a better play here.

Are you don't have the Qualcomm 800 series computational power for software features to take advantage of all of this stuff like I, get pretty decent portrait mode shots out of my blackberry? Key ? I actually have gotten some amazing photos of Led at like restaurants and dim indoor lighting conditions from this blackberry, which supposedly has the worst camera of all time. I really feel anyone who's still slamming the BlackBerry camera just doesn't know how to camera. But when you step down to that 660, you lose a lot of the horsepower that you would have relied on for a pixel, or you would have relied on for a Galaxy S or an iPhone and I think having something like that. Depth sensor helps fill in the gaps on something that you can't just make up in soft sorry, I didn't know that is. That is very true I.

That makes a lot of sense.1, +, 60 s, press event is now officially xxx. It was initially supposedly gonna, be the 17, but it looks like that's gonna, be it. They look, and this word that it has a new, a new improved UI for the devices. Also, we'll see how that shows up. OnePlus fans, I'm sure, would be very excited about this new device announcement, although I'm still not ITII, don't like their timing, it's just too short from the 1 + 6 to the 1 + 60 B.

You should be good in the past, because Qualcomm always had two chips. A year now welcomes just one processor here, so sour-faced Facebook knows that what we're going to say about this, you want to say something: I'm, sorry I mean like yeah. If you want to chime in I, I had a long conversation with TK about this. As we were, driving to lunch and I. Don't know I mean like how are you guys feeling I feel like III feel concerned and frustrated about things like the headphone jack? Obviously, I'm going to be cranky about that, but it doesn't seem to have moved the needle much at all.

What if people talking about the phone like I feel if that were a bigger deal to consumers, we would have seen that vote with your wallet campaign now for people buying the 1 + 6 instead of getting the 16 yeah, no I do agree. I think I. Think the end is truly near for the headphone jack, and then you know, just speaking of that with rumors that Samsung most likely will take it out, or these might take it out of the S 10, because of bezel and I have to see what the bezel looks like if they truly give me that phone that looks like this is just no bezel I hated by all. Forgive them because at least the excuses valid I just want a valid excuse. This wouldn't be valid for Christ's sake.

The screen does not basically go all the way the end of the device it sits on top the damn device depends. Am there no I'm saying not not not what Google said last year when they said the Google said they were doing thinner bezels by the way for this crap here with that they said to me, I mean that's an anime character. Looking at the nudge I was just I was just amazed. People you swim in that thing. Yeah, it's pretty massive done here we go here.

We go. That's that's it right. Just give you guys a good idea of lately so manning wins. We can do that I'm so happy. My dad has the smaller pixel ? it is so bad I was talking to ISO, Fisher, and I was like so which one you pick is like.

Of course, I went through the three I can't go with that. It is just offensive. I actually I had another powwow session. With my patrons patreon. com slash on the gadget guy, we'm going to be sitting it out.

I'm going to circle back to the pixel three at the end of the year. There's just so much coming out this month and everyone's way more excited to talk about razor phones, 1 plus 60, LCD, 40 honored. To try and get another like entry-level phone or $200 phone in the mix. ? I will not be able to get to the pixel 3 by the end of the year, I'm completely booked yeah. It's its not um.

It's its a crazy time of the year, just in terms of devices to play around with, but I think this week's launch event was pretty nice but, like I said back to Facebook, they announced a device called portal which is Sam. You want to kick it video chat device. Basically it's a two of them right this one for about I, believe it's a hundred, and I see out there 199, and it's another for 349. Just imagine the same thing with the Google hub. You know the Google home hub and Alexa.

You know the Alexa with the screen. What's that called now I know yeah. It's essentially the same thing that you're doing there I don't know exactly what the features are on now, but this is actually going to have Alexa audits. So Facebook is launching a device. That's going to use Alexa! Well, they don't they don't have they don't have the on voice, assistant and I.

Don't think if you're really going in that route, they want to have persistence, I think that started off well, and then we corrupted one of their assistants. You know they had the chatbot. Sorry, the AI chat BOTS got one of them got corrupted by human eye, training it the wrong way and became evil. So remember the that they had that's the the. We also realized that some chatbots started talking to each other, and we're using a different language that was created by them, so they shut it down as well.

Yep they literally kid and you're. Like will kill this before it goes any further yeah, so I think that's where probably where they want things to happen and I kind of get that whole idea of the assistant goes to fetch out the things you want. The know set up. You know if I want to. If I want to hang out with Huang I'm like ya wanna, you know I'm going to be here, then his chat boat will clear his schedule, so he can actually drive over, and then I could see him instead of him making the excuse to say I was so busy tired, say: no I fell asleep it like seven.

You know like when you're, when you're sort of a younger adult you can be like I'm going to stay up all night, just because I can because I'm a grown up a little older, and you have a kid, and you're like I'm, going I'm going to go eat. The early bird special at my favorite restaurant go home and fall asleep at 8:00 in comfy pajamas, because I'm, a grown-up and I, can do that. Oh yeah, it's so funny! It's like this. The whole I want to stay up and party all night I'm, a grown-up I live alone. I can do this and then is the want to stay home and not go out because I'm, a grown-up and I, don't have to be peer pressure, and it is, it is sort of a sort of reinforcing echo chamber.

Because, like my wife, will be the same way as I had a long day. Did you have a long day yeah? Do you want to try and get out of here? No yeah? So that's all we have to talk about the Facebook portal. It's a Facebook, but the question was like checked: you asked what this is something to Danny about it, and I was like you going to cover it he's like no everybody hates Facebook, you know, I mean I was just is initial thoughts like it's like because of all the stuff, that's going on with Facebook and I, and even to the fact that, with this breach, announcement of 29 million hacks people were like. Oh, you know, Facebook again, they were just clarifying the information and then looking at what GSI martini posted here on this device, the article writes the very top. They go.

The portal using the real for far-field microphones, that cordial conversation, strikeout picks you up your voice, commands that is but see that's a sentiment that is, we all know, happens for every single yeah but weaker yeah. When you struck out this many times when it comes to consumer security as Facebook, has you lose trust? You lose trust in your consumers or your consumers lose trust in you that you're going to protect whatever you record from them. If someone is hacking your system, then you don't have a resolution. You're not gonna, get my conversation, or I get I, get that part I. Just don't want and hey Ricky.

If you're watching this, you guys shouldn't just bright it. This way you know this is a little bit too much satire for me just knowing that it's got four e mics, you know I mean, like I, don't know, have a lot of those debates, a pocket now to you're trying to write entertaining content, and you know that I feel I personally feel and I may, I think would have agreed with me to that oftentimes, when you inject that much sardonic wit, I, think that crosses the line into editorializing on something and I feel there should always be a clear separation between editorializing and delivering news, but what I, what I? What I want to try in and offer up here guys is- and please tell me what your thoughts are because I know we're getting close to wrapping up this, and I can be really long-winded. Mm-Hmm yeah, it seems like Facebook, has become a lightning rod company for a general trend that I'm seeing throughout the tech industry, where we're all burnt out we're all tired of social media, we're all tired of toxic conversations, toxic interactions online, and we're all looking to improve the quality of interactions that we have. You know from Google and Apple. It's we're going to build these apps that nanny monitor all of your phone usage and will tell you when you're using apps too much youngster.

You sit your butt down, which I think are just gonna, create more noise, I, think they're going to be things that people think are nifty for a minute and then disabled they're just getting nagged about what they're already going to be doing on their phones anyway. But we look at an outlet like Facebook and that becomes such a lightning rod, because it's business model sort of encourages the most outrage traffic, the most toxic behavior wrapping. All of this up now do we think that this general trend will actually find some legs. As we talk about digital health and digital mental health, or are we just taking a little of a break? You know letting a few of these Facebook products go by, and then we'll start tagging back in to whatever social media trend becomes hot next week, or something like that. I think we're taking a bit of a break.

I think the way at least our society runs with social media is unless somebody comes up with either platform or service, or something that's new, really fresh and really curtail some of the things that we wanted to curtail. There's no way people will change as much as people I've noticed people have complained and talked about it and then, and I watch them. They also part of the problem. You know they are the ones who are doing some of the same things, and they're the ones who complain about people posting too much, and then I'm going. Why did you post that, and I think it almost because social media has never had instructions or manual how to there be? No, there is no day was no best practice.

Do you know, there's no consumption of saying, hey? Look if I'm going to share anything on any platform. That means I'm sharing to six billion people or seven billion people. That's that's literally how you should look at it. If I put this picture up, seven billion people have access to it. That's, and the thing is we never had a best practice or there was nothing taught in schools or our parents to say son when you sign up on Facebook.

Well, just remember that, because I recently got a situation where I have to do some research. My sister about my nephew, trying to you, know kind of curtail his posting habits and I found out that you really can't even do that as a parent. You do not even have a child Instagram accounts that you can basically lock or basically review any post before it goes out there that doesn't exist, so it's like no, they just they want to collect as much information as possible yeah, and they don't want to be limited in any way, shape or form in regard to people's personal safety or the safety of minors. They don't care about that. All they care about is getting as much information as possible and selling it to the people who buy this information from yes, it's scary seriously, it is scary, I mean just looking at this way, and I'm not trying to interject politics here, but I was reading something before we have gone online saying the Trump campaign is now selling it's the information data of it.

You know people who signed up- and you know gosh dang- it I- need to now go and sign up from it, and it didn't disclose this to the users. It just came out with this article, and you know there are many services that do that, and you're going. How do I not know about these things? How do I know that okay I am signing up for whether it's a service, a political organization, anything like that I want to that I know it's only called tailed into that service, and so we live in a day and age where it looks once you sign up for something it's gone. If it has okay, if it's on the web, it is gone, you know, and that person would sell that information to someone else or someone else, and then, when you finally get that email and say don't send me any more emails, you saying it's the last person, here's one that got information, but the person who sold it in the first place still have access to it. Like I.

Try to keep my information that I sign up for the same across the board, so you buy. That's us, that's my own thinking you, but you're buying the same information that I want out there as much as possible. Again, it's so hard to do, but I think that's. This thing people have to realize is that the only way for you to control your information, ironic Allah says turn it off. Yes or you decide what you share yeah, but even it is so that's that's the most there's.

Sometimes you don't even share information, and it gets out there anyway, yeah recently I'm helping a friend out we're removing information about her intimates because she's somewhat of a public figure, people know her name, and she works in a sensitive kind of industry. Now, all of a sudden, her phone number and an address for the last three addresses were online. You can actually search and find these things on mind. She's, like I, never posted this anywhere I'm like yeah. It could be the fact that you know when you did an address chain, the post office.

Someone might have gotten the hang of it or when you basically filled out something online for like a payment or something someone you know took that and used it to. You know to so little it's up to a third party. We now know that when you gave Facebook your phone number for two-factor authentication they basically sold had it in for me, use that information to deliver ads to you. So nothing is secret anymore. When it comes to these social media companies, nothing really is sacred anymore.

So the question becomes like what? What is your right as a consumer so basically say I, don't want certain information about myself to be out there, especially information that I give to one social media company I. Don't want them to sell this information I! Don't want any one of this kind of information to get out there whatsoever. That becomes like a fascinating question. Why I think the advent of a subscription service for social media might be advantageous where I know that I am not servicing ads I'm using this I'm not saying it's gonna work perfectly anything I'm, just saying that that might be something, and then, if, if my information actually gets sold at that point or is, is you know, is I find that our face? Because I've done something with it, then I have rights to sue right now we don't have again even on the medication side right, unless, of course, it's just big class actions. Were you looking at yeah and even their hats yeah that just becomes a business taxes exactly I.

Think that corrects the industry thank you, but when you're paying for a service, then you can say: hey look I paid specific for this I'll get into that yeah I paid the premium? It's the hundred dollars. You know year to say you don't use my stuff, and then you use my stuff so sorry and that that's also one of those things to wear until we can get to some type of agreement or change the relationship that we have with these companies. I mean to Ronald. Collins is point in the live chat. I am a digital 21st century consumer.

The power button doesn't really get turned off. Okay, I got an order from Amazon that, but this is this has become a major part of my since having Led over the last three years. A major part of my tech relationship has been changing. My behavior that has been for whatever reason we act, like consumers can't ever change their behavior. But again there are maybe six or seven photos of Led on Facebook, and only a couple of them have her face visible in any kind of identifiable fashion.

There are over a hundred and twenty gigabytes of photos and videos of Led available to my family and friends, but none of them on any kind of public facing platform. It's all in a locked up, folder on another cloud server. Is that the safest? No, but that is a much higher tier separation from social media while still being accessible to the people that care enough to kind of keep up with our family's exploits. It was another thing too. I was really disappointed.

Obviously I made a video about the iPhone, and it was really snarky, but I eat a Lynne. The video, how I was changing my behavior and using the iPhone to streamline interactions and to get to the services that were important and to try and minimize the amount of time I spend picking up my phone home for something to do. Obviously, I made a video about the iPhone. So most people went oh, my gosh. If you just don't like it, then just don't buy it I'm over the haters, which you're, obviously not over the haters.

If you're leaving comments on my video wall been amazingly missing, the point of what the video was about, but this is something that I've been trying to play with for almost four years now it started when I did the experiment of turning my phone grayscale. So I turned my phone black and white. How can I minimize unhealthy interactions with my phone, where we all do this? We pick up our phone with the intention of doing one thing and then 30 minutes later we're looking for something else to do. Five minutes later, we still haven't done that one thing I find apple's argument is wholly disingenuous when they're talking about screen time, because iOS is still a flea market Bazaar of apps that just install with very poor organizational tools for the user and the only REA way I could wrap my head around a simpler interaction and organizational layout was to try and make iOS look a little more like Android, so I could dump everything into an app drawer, folder, and then I use my iPhone more, like I use, Windows 10, where, instead of looking through pages of apps I search for exactly the app that I want to use At that moment and that way, I'm not looking for I'm, not getting distracted by pretty colorful squares I'm going directly to that one interaction with purpose, so I can get on. With my day until we have these kinds of relationships, you were saying and what we've been saying you know having a subscription style Facebook as opposed to a'm the product Facebook.

It's going to be on us to change our behaviors and then also be those resources for our family and friends to help them change their behaviors. Almost every single person I've shown my iPhone to I, have one home screen and I have a folder down in the dock, where all the apps have been dumped. Every one I've shown that too, as opposed to having categories of folders and multiple places where they're putting things there's been some appeal there. Not all of them are going to switch over to my layout. Oh, I am going to do that right.

Something clicks, some. It makes sense. There is a problem with how we interact with our technology. This is my solution for it. It's not going to be everybody solution for it, but I can make a good for why I'm doing this, not just to spite Apple and there's been a lot of traction in my own personal circles of family and friends that something needs to change, but that change isn't going to come from the company because the company is being validated with every purchase.

So instead I'm going to have to be the change and then that will probably influence future purchasing decisions. Yeah, the whole folder thing for me is just about being organized I hate flipping through things that happen to do a search box. So what I do is that basically, my Samsung put them in folders, call it a color, the folders I use the most. So basically, what I, when I'm, looking for something I just know it's so sitting with a color pop up in the folder Tony use that and a story, it's changing it oh go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say in color is so huge when you go black and white, it is shocking.

You don't really look for iconography. You were only looking for little smudges of color to get to the app, so you're familiar with it completely pumps the brakes on how you used to look for things on your phone, even when you know that your apps are alphabetically sorted, but again, why I was focusing that conversation on Apple and why I'm so frustrated with apples, we're going to be so altruistic and give you these amazing reporting tools on screen time and how you use your phone. Are things like when I organize folders in a home on home screens and launchers on Android I can create exactly the layout down to the ergonomics of how I hold my phone like something as simple as I will put a shortcut for my wife, exactly where my thumb naturally rests on the screen, but I can't do that on an iPhone. An iPhone always has to be a grid arrangement from the top down, so I always have to organize exactly in that form factor when I want to put folders together on an iPhone the fastest way to organize the filters is to go through. iTunes look I need another computer to do the basic folder organization and management.

Now he tells me I'm struggling here, it's a mess. This is, and it's not just it's not just in arguments. It's not just on us. It's also Android. Furthermore, it has problems, but Android by design started with better tools.

Oh yeah, the thing is like I would like to be able to say hey when I download an app it doesn't automatically show I, don't want it to automatically show up on my front page now, I have to go through and click an option that says: oh, don't install this on the front page I think it might be a Samsung thing might be an Android thing, but it just automatically goes right there on my home screen. So sorry, if you don't pay attention to that, you end up with an of a situation of no I. Actually I, actually like that, because my home screen is only apps that I use I'd, leave there, so I literally, and I need to have one home screen page. We only one app so I can see my wallpaper. My home screen is for two things: first off it has my calendar and secondly, it has that bottom bar with email, messenger phone icon.

That was the last one and camera exactly that's it. That's all my experience. I saw I used to be that guy, who would have like yeah I, remember when I was setting up my rugby and how excited I was that I could have seven home screens on my little Samsung rugby, and I'm, now I'm down to two I'm down to two home screens, just for sort of key services o'clock and then some of my favorite multimedia apps and for 2019. My goal is to get it down to one home screen: I want as streamlined and interface as simplified in interface as I. Possibly can that be instantly translated from phone to phone to phone? That's my goal did not tell me how difficult this is to do.

It is its a pain in the ass right. It just works she's, not at all. Furthermore, it pisses me off. So much and again, I make a video about this. Where I showed what I did, and I explained, why, but I had a army of over it, just don't buy it, ignore the haters I own now, I'm realizing that Apple has a lot of utility apps yeah yeah I do the same thing for my iPad, it's like organizing my iPad and the fact that when you drag an app over its like, ah it doesn't do it the first yeah terrible yeah.

It could be a little frustrating. Okay, I'm consistently disappointed that overall. Why was I listening to too hard on this? We need to wind down. Actually I do need to get going here in just a couple of minutes all right cool, so we've got a part of the show while I continue this. What tells us exactly what's on his channel and what we can expect next.

So actually not a lot went to the channel over this last week, because the iPhone is also a terrible platform for managing multimedia content and I lost two whole days of file management and file. Transferring just to get all of my camera samples off of the iPhone 10s, because I have PCs. This wasn't a problem with one PC I couldn't manage files on three different PCs, so this is not one just has a funky computer. This was a systemic problem that I faced with iOS devices and the only way to fix it is to buy like a three thousand dollar Mac, which I'm not going to do success so on the Patreon I have the iPhone 10s and the iPhone camera review. The camera review went live yesterday.

It's 30 minutes, 4k 60 frames per second, you get the closest I could Addie could deliver for native representation of iPhone camera samples, and we take a stupid, deep dive into image processing the capabilities of this camera. The claims that Apple's making and that new, larger image sensor patreon. com slash some gadget guy, come into the main channel, I'm finally going to be getting back on track. Now that I'm not having to deal with iOS nonsense anymore, I've been breaking in my v40 I have a couple of days of photography under my belt here. We're going to be talking about audio capability.

That's going to be another audio review. That's going to be coming to the channel, and I'm working right now on a comparison, I always liked. Looking at one-year upgrades so from my v32, the v40. What should you expect? Will it be the right fit for you? Is it worth spending that kind of cash if you're, V, 30, still kicking still going strong and then on New egg? Last week we did a ton, a ton of commentary on until 9th gen 9900 k. We had JJ from Asus to give us like this crazy long, in-depth breakdown on all the new tech.

That's coming not only to the Intel chipset but to ASUS motherboards, so that was I mean like that was granular. We were getting into like the trenching design on motherboards to talk about like electron leakage and voltage, regulators and heat sinks and stuff. So if you really want to know, will tell you and then, over this weekend, I'm also going to be delivering. Another episode of creator chat with one of my favorite people on the planet, and she shares a lot of her thoughts on creator burnout and making transitions between different media setups. So I'll save that just for when I can properly t6 I'm going to be editing that as soon as we're we're we're done with this episode here, cool good stuff.

On my end, we had a bunch of videos this week, not too much one is my best. Noise cast the headphones for 2018. This is between the Bob Wilkins PX, granted that came out last year, the Bose qc25 2 and the Sony 3 1000 blocks 3. So that's something to go ahead and check out to see which actually takes that claim for all the aspect that deals with noise-cancelling, and then we just had two other videos. One was on the razor phone talked about the top 5 features on that phone.

Now, what you can expect from it, and then we did a gaming video on the pixel 3 XL. So what's uh you know you can do the pixel 3 excel. Does it overheat? You know, especially since he doesn't have a cooling pipe like many other devices do and also runs four gigs of ram, and even though that tech tends to run scheme well, there are some games that actually use more. So go ahead, check it out us for next week, I'm going to be doing my speaker test for all the new phones included. The razor phone which razor comes at 103 decibels is the peak as well as also the new pixel three excel I will tell you.

There is a surprise King. That's all I have to say. Because LG has won this constantly, so mm-hm just put out and then yeah I think that's pretty much if I'm going to have all the videos I just can't think of what I need to actually put out. Oh, yes, yes, Daniel will be covering the stuff from while we had the events in London, so stay tuned for videos from him on the course I made 20 Pro and then mate 20 itself, so they have a guy. Thank you very much for chiming in the chat.

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