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. >>> WHAT'S UP, EVERYBODY? WELCOME BACK TO THE ENGADGET PODCAST LIVE RECORDING. I'M SENIOR EDITOR DEVINDRA HARDAWAR AND I'M JOINED WITH SHIRLENE LOW AND OUR PODCAST PRODUCER BEN ELLMAN IS AROUND TOO. HELLO, BEN. >> HELLO. >> WE ARE THE TRIO YOU'LL TYPICALLY SEE ON THURSDAY MORNINGS CHATTING ABOUT NEWS AND WHATEVER ELSE IS HAPPENING THIS WEEK. THIS WEEK IT'S GOING TO BE ALL SAMSUNG ALL THE TIME, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF GOOGLE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT ELSE, APPLE REFRESHES? THIS IS A JAM PACKED WEEK.

I AM EXCITED. HOW ABOUT YOU, SHIRLENE? ARE YOU READY TO DIVE INTO THIS STUFF? >> I AM READY TO DIVE INTO THIS STUFF BUT I'M DEAD. >> WELL, ALSO YOU'VE BEEN WRITING A CRAP TON THIS WEEK SO I CAN IMAGINE. >> A LOT OF THE WORK, ESPECIALLY THE PIXEL 4A REVIEW I WAS ABLE TO DO LAST WEEK AND THEN THE WORK FOR SAMSUNG I DID A LOT OF IT THIS WEEK FOR SURE. THERE'S MORE TO COME.

IT IS NOW 10:01 A. M. SO IF YOU'RE JOINING US ON THIS PRESHOW, YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE A QUICK SCAN AT THE ENGADGET WEBSITE BECAUSE MY HANDS-ON WITH THE TAB S7 PLUS JUST WENT LIVE, LIKE FRESH OUT OF THE OVEN. IT JUST WENT LIVE. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT ENGADGET.

COM. WE HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO. I WILL BE SHOWING THAT OFF HERE ON THE LIVESTREAM. >> WE'LL SEE. >> I'M GETTING PINGS BECAUSE AN ARTICLE JUST WENT UP.

SO OF COURSE I'M GETTING -- >> SILENCE YOUR PHONE, SHIRLENE. >> I SILENCED MY PHONE BUT NOT MY LAPTOPS WHERE THERE ARE OTHER APPS OPEN LIKE SLACK. >> THIS IS THE STORY OF EVERY RECORDING. SILENCE ALL THE THINGS. I NEED A UNIVERSAL MUTE BUTTON FOR ALL MY DEVICES.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT INVENTION. >> I DO "DO NOT DISTURB. " AND BY THE WAY, PIXEL 4A WILL MAKE AN APPEARANCE AS WELL TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT. BUT, YEAH, IT WILL STILL SHOW UP ON MY LAPTOP.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING DISTRACTED. >> SO DO YOU GUYS WANT TO RUN THROUGH WHAT WE'VE GOT ON THE EPISODE TODAY? >> SURE. GO FOR IT. LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S TOTALLY, TOTALLY JAM PACKED. LIKE, LOTS OF STUFF THAT WE'RE UNDER EMBARGO, WE'RE FINALLY GOING LIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM SAMSUNG UNPACKED 2020. THAT'S FIVE DEVICES. GOING TO BE DOING THE Z FOLD 2, THE NOTE 20 ENTIRE LINE. THE GALAXY TABITHA SHIRLENE WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. THE GALAXY WATCH 3.

AND A VERY QUICK THING ON THE GALAXY BUDS LIVE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING TO THE PIXEL 4A REVIEW, WHICH YESTERDAY DURING OUR PRODUCTION MEETING I LITERALLY JUST SAID TO SHIRLENE, MAKE ME FEEL BAD ABOUT PURCHASING AN iPHONE SE 2 LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO. >> YOU GOT AN OUTDATED DESIGN, BUDDY. >> OH, WOW. I PREFER THINGS THAT WAY.

ANYWAY -- >> A LITTLE OLD. >> WE'VE GOT PIXEL 4A. SHIRLENE MADE ME FEEL BAD ABOUT GETTING A NEW APPLE PRODUCT. SPEAKING OF APPLE PRODUCTS, APPLE COULD NOT JUST ALLOW EVERYONE ELSE TO HAVE THE SPOTLIGHT THIS WEEK. THEY WERE LIKE NOTICE ME, SEMPAI SO THEY REFRESHED THE iMAC.

THERE IS A NEW 27-INCH. AND I THINK NEW PROCESSORS. BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT LATER ON. THEN REALLY JUST HOT OFF THE PRESS IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS TARGETING MORE CHINESE COMPANIES. IT'S NOT JUST BYTEDANCE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE COMPANY BEHIND TIKTOK. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO A BUNCH OF WORKING ON STUFF. DEVINDRA BEING ANNOYED AT THE "MULAN" RELEASE. AND POP CULTURE PICKS, ALL SORTS OF GOOD STUFF COMING UP IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. AND ACTUALLY AS WE'RE GOING OVER THIS, I DO FEEL LIKE A LOT OF TIC TACS -- EVERYBODY AT MPR WAS SAYING TIC TAC AND NOW I'M DOING THAT.

A LOT OF THE TIKTOK STUFF HAPPENED OVER THE PAST WEEK. WE SHOULD -- LET'S MAKE THAT SECTION MORE ABOUT TIKTOK. AND THEN LIKE TRUMP'S OVERALL NEW PLAN. >> TRUE. OKAY, YEAH.

>> ON SUNDAY NIGHT I WAS UP WRITING A STORY. BECAUSE MICROSOFT PRONOUNCED IT WAS HAPPENING AT 8:00 P. M. ON SUNDAY. >> I SHOULD'VE LOOKED AT YOUR PICKS SOONER BECAUSE I ALREADY RECOMMENDED IT ON THE EPISODE WITH MATT.

>> OH, THAT'S FINE. >> WE CAN GO OVER IT AGAIN. IT'S FINALLY FINISHED NOW. >> I JUST STARTED IT TOO. IT DOES SEEM LIKE -- >> I FINISHED IT.

I WAS TWEETING ABOUT IT. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DON'T FOLLOW MY EVERY SINGLE TWEET. >> UH, I THINK I MAY HAVE MUTED YOU ON TWITTER. >> WOW. >> JUST FOR SANITY.

OH, MAN. >> SPEAKING OF TWITTER THOUGH FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE LIVESTREAM, LIKE, WE'RE HERE TO TALK TO YOU. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS LIVESTREAM. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS LEAVE THEM IN THE YOUTUBE CHAT. OUR PRODUCER BEN'S LOOKING AT THEM ALONG WITH HELP FROM OUR VIDEO CREW.

SHOUT OUT TO THEM. BUT YOU CAN ALSO HIT ME UP @SHIRLENE ON TWITTER. >> I WILL SEE THAT AFTER THE SHOW OR I'M GOING TO TRY TO LOOK DURING THE SHOW. >> I THINK THE LESSON IS IF YOU WANT US TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING DURING THE SHOW AND YOU WANT US TO RESPOND TO IT TWEET @ENGADGET #PODCAST LIVE. >> AND YESTERDAY WE HAD A LIVESTREAM WHILE SAMSUNG'S EVENT WAS GOING ON.

AND THE YOUTUBE CHAT THERE WAS JUST FLOODED WITH BTS PURPLE HEARTS. >> WE HAVE ALL THE BTS FANS. >> BECAUSE BTS DID SHOW UP FOR A 30 SECOND OR LESS. >> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THEY WERE PAID FOR THAT? >> OH, MAN. >> A MILLION DOLLARS A SECOND.

>> YEAH. BECAUSE THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM TOO. >> THEIR HANDLING COMPANY GOT PAID A MILLION DOLLARS A SECOND. THEY GOT PAID 25 CENTS A MINUTE. >> THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY SAD.

SO, YEAH. LET'S SEE WHAT IT BRINGS. >> OKAY, YES. >> ARE WE HEARING ANYTHING FROM THE CHAT YET, BY THE WAY? I SAW SOMEBODY WAS ALREADY DISAPPOINTED THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHRIS VELASCO. I'M NOT AS BEAUTIFUL AS CHRIS VELASCO.

>> ON THE SHOW YESTERDAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WORK RELATIONSHIP IS LIKE WORK BROTHER LIKE SISTER. AND YOU'RE ALSO LIKE MY BROTHER BUT LIKE MY OLDER BROTHER. LIKE THE NAGY BROTHER, CAN YOU DO THIS? >> BUT NO, IT'S FUN. WE ALL HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP HERE AT ENGADGET. IT'S FUN.

>> AND IT'LL BE FUN REGARDLESS. >> WELL, IT'S FUN BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ANDROID AND SAMSUNG-HEAVY EPISODE. AND, YOU KNOW. >> WHICH MEANS THAT DEVINDRA IS NOT GOING TO TALK. JUST EVEN LINKING OUT MY OPINIONS ABOUT SOME OF THIS NEWS IS LIKE SAMSUNG, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SECOND -- YOU KNOW, THE NEWEST EXTRA EXPENSIVE PHONE IN SAMSUNG'S LINEUP.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE Z FOLD 21 GOING TO COST. YOU JUST REVIEWED A $350 PHONE THAT SOUNDS PERFECT. YEAH, PEOPLE CRITICIZED ME FOR SAYING, OH, MY GOD, MAYBE PHONES ARE GETTING TOO EXPENSIVE. >> YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY PERSON WITH THAT OPINION. A LOT OF TECH REPORTERS, TECH MEDIA ARE SAYING THAT NOBODY'S ANY MORE ON BOARD WITH A PHONE THAT'S GOING TO COST ONE MONTH OF RENT, RIGHT? >> THIS WILL BE IN THE SHOW.

THIS IS FODDER FOR THE PODCAST, BUT YEAH. LET ME JUST START MY LOCAL RECORDING HERE TOO. >> I'LL DO THAT TOO, BEN. BUT ALSO WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT FOR EVERYONE THAT'S WATCHING THE LIVESTREAM, WE'RE GOING TO RECORD THE PODCAST FOR THE AUDIO. BUT IN BETWEEN SEGMENTS WHEN WE'RE BETWEEN TOPICS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE MORE QUESTIONS AND TALK TO YOU FROM, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE PREPARING TO START RECORDING THE NEXT PODCAST SEGMENT.

BUT IF WE'RE NOT SOUNDING LIKE WE'RE RESPONDING IN THE MOMENT, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE AUDIO CLEAN SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING TO THE AUDIO ONLY CAN HEAR IT TOMORROW. >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SHOW PROGRAMMED AND READY TO, LIKE, TALK ABOUT. SO THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST US HANGING AROUND ON THE LIVE STREAM EVEN THOUGH THAT WOULD BE FUN. WHAT'S UP, SHIRLENE? >> NO, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THE INPUT IS RIGHT. >> JUST BEFORE WE START THE ACTUAL SHOW, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT SOMEONE SAID IN THE YOUTUBE CHAT, DEVINDRA, YOU'RE A DASHING YOUNG MAN, DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE.

>> AWW. >> I'VE DONE VIDEOS ALONG WITH CHRIS. AND I CAN TELL THE CAMERA WHEN IT FOCUSES ON CHRIS VELASCO. >> AND GOES ♪ AHHHH ♪ >> THERE ARE SPARKLIES AROUND HIM. I CAN ONLY GO SO FAR.

I KNOW MY LIMITATIONS, FOLKS. IT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO THROUGH LIFE. >> I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE LIMITATIONS. >> SO MANY LIMITATIONS. >> I DID WATCH THE VIDEO THAT YOU HAVE PINNED TO YOUR TWITTER FEED FEATURING SOPHIA YOUR DAUGHTER.

>> AT THREE MONTHS. >> SO GORGEOUS, SO BEAUTIFUL. AND THE COMMENTS ON THE VIDEO WERE ACTUALLY LOVELY. EVERYONE'S LIKE, DEVINDRA, YOUR DAUGHTER IS BEAUTIFUL. >> IT'S THE ONE YOUTUBE VIDEO WE HAVE WHERE LIKE THE COMMENTS ARE GENERALLY GOOD AND WE HAVEN'T HAD TO GO IN AND MODERATED THEM.

THAT WAS THREE MONTHS. SHE IS 21 MONTHS OLD NOW. I GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT VIDEO, AND I WAS, LIKE, MAN, HOW DID THAT LITTLE THING BECOME THIS NEARLY 2-YEAR-OLD TERROR? SHE'S GREAT. SHE'S HAVING SO MUCH FUN BEING HERE. >> SHE'S ADORABLE.

>> LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING ANOTHER VIDEO WHEN WE HAVE SOME TODDLER TOYS TO TEST OR SOMETHING. >> HAVE HER COME FOR THAT 8-YEAR-OLD WHO MAKES LIKE $20 MILLION A YEAR REVIEWING TOYS ON YOUTUBE. >> OH, WE ARE. WE'RE GOING TO. SHE DEFINITELY HAS THE COOLEST CONVERTIBLE BIKE ON THE BLOCK.

AND ALL THE OTHER KIDS ARE, LIKE, HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> ARE THERE A LOT OF KIDS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TOO? >> OH, YEAH. THERE'S A TON OF KIDS. ALL THE KIDS NOW DURING PANDEMIC ARE AFRAID OF EACH OTHER SO I'M SECRETLY WORRIED THAT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE A LITTLE SOCIALLY STUNTED FOR THEIR WHOLE LIVES. BUT WE'LL SEE. >> THEY JUST NEED TO SOCIALIZE AFTER IT'S SAFE.

>> WHO KNOWS! WHEN WILL THAT BE? I DON'T KNOW. >> I THINK FOR ME I'M LOOKING AT THE NOTES NOW. I THINK I'M GOOD. SHOUT OUT TO ANYONE ON THE TEAM THAT'S TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION. MOST OF MY ATTENTION'S GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON -- >> DON'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

ARE WE READY TO GET STARTED? >> OKAY. MY LEVELS LOOK GOOD. HOW DO YOURS LOOK, SHIRLENE? AND THEN, BEN, YOU'RE RECORDING ON YOUR END. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT OUR LITTLE AUDIO RECORDING APPS LOOK. WE DON'T JUST TAKE THE STREAM.

IT'S FINE FOR STREAMING BUT IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS HAVING A NICE CLEAN RECORDING FROM YOUR HOUSE. WE'RE SIMULTANEOUSLY RECORDING ON LIKE AUDIO WORK STATIONS. AND THEN ALSO STREAMING TO THE WEB. >> WE NEVER DID THE VIDEO COMPONENT OF THIS BEFORE. NORMALLY I'D BE UNDER A BLANKET WITH BETTER SOUND.

>> WE WOULDN'T BE ALL SHOWERED AND DRESSED UP AND EVERYTHING. JUST TO LOOK NICE FOR YOU GUYS. >> THIS TAKES AN HOUR TO HAPPEN. >> OH, MAN. OKAY.

SO WE'VE GOT THE LOCAL RECORDINGS GOING. OKAY. LET'S SYNC IN THREE, TWO, ONE. SO FIRE WHEN READY. >>> WHAT'S UP, INTERNET? LET ME DO THAT AGAIN BECAUSE MY VOICE CRACKED.

>>> WHAT'S UP, INTERNET? AND WELCOME BACK TO THE ENGADGET PODCAST. I'M SENIOR EDITOR DEVINDRA HARDAWAR. >> I'M REVIEW EDITOR SHIRLENE LOW. >> AND TODAY IT'S ALL ABOUT SAMSUNG. SO MUCH SAMSUNG.

FIVE DIFFERENT DEVICES FROM SAMSUNG. SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET TIRED OF US HEARING US SAYING SAMSUNG. THIS IS GOING TO BE A JAM PACKED EPISODE BECAUSE OF SAMSUNG'S GALAXY UNPACKED EVENT. THAT'S THE NAME OF IT, RIGHT? WE WERE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME FOR THAT. BUT IT IS A DELUGE OF TONS AND TONS OF PRODUCTS.

SHIRLENE'S GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HER PIXEL 4A REVIEW WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THE PERFECT $350 PHONE. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS TO DIVE INTO. A LITTLE BIT OF MICROSOFT AND TIKTOK AND WHATEVER IS HAPPENING THERE. AND ACTUALLY THAT'S RELATED TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO, I DON'T KNOW, CONTROL MORE CHINESE COMPANIES. THERE'S AN iMAC REFRESH TO TALK ABOUT.

DISNEY'S PUTTING "MULAN" IN DISNEY PLUS. IT HAS BEEN A JAM PACKED WEEK. I AM SO TIRED. IT'S THURSDAY MORNING. AND, YEAH, I FEEL FOR YOU, SHIRLENE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO DO THE PROMO NOW. >> YES. AS ALWAYS, IF YOU'RE ENJOYING THE SHOW, PLEASE BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO US ON ITUNES. LEAVE US A REVIEW ON ITUNES, SUPER HELPFUL.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO WATCH US RECORD THIS THING LIVE, JOIN US THURSDAYS AROUND 10:00 A. M. ON THE ENGADGET YOUTUBE CHANNEL. WE'LL PUT UP POSTS ABOUT THAT TOO. BUT THAT'S A CHANCE FOR YOU TO JOIN IN AND TALK WITH US AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE EPISODES, SEE SOME BEHIND-THE-SCENES ACTION.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH PEOPLE. >> PRODUCER NOTE, THAT'S 10:00 A. M. EASTERN TIME. >> THAT'S TRUE.

>> THE ONLY TIME THAT MATTERS. COME ON. >> OKAY, 10:00 A. M. EASTERN AND ALSO BETWEEN SEGMENTS WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE Q&A.

SO, YES, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CHAT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING LIKE ALL OF THE STUFF FROM THE SAMSUNG UNPACKED 2020. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HIT THOSE RIGHT AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THAT SEGMENT. >> SPEAKING OF THAT SEGMENT, HIT IT WHEN YOU NEED. >> SO, SAMSUNG UNPACKED 2020.

SHIRLENE, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TALK ON A BROADER LEVEL. WHAT WAS THIS EVENT LIKE FOR YOU JUST TO PREPARE FOR AND JUST TO EXPERIENCE? BECAUSE NORMALLY, IT'S YOU AND CHRIS VELASCO, YOU KNOW, HOPPING ON A PLANE, EITHER FLYING SOMEWHERE OR GOING TO THE BARCLAYS CENTER IN BROOKLYN. WHICH I ALREADY MISS LIVING IN NEW YORK, BUT THAT PLACE WAS SO CLOSE TO ME. I STILL HAVE NOT HAD TO ATTEND A TECH EVENT THERE. SO ANNOYING.

THE ONE TIME I LIVE NEXT TO YOU. BUT HOW WAS THE EVENT OVERALL FOR YOU? >> I MEAN, IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT FROM HOME. I DIDN'T WANT TO -- USUALLY AN EVENT LIKE THIS REQUIRES IF WE'RE FLYING TO A DIFFERENT CITY FOR THIS, WE WOULD GET UP IN WHATEVER TIME ZONE, GET READY AND GO WAIT IN LINE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF. AND THEN BE ALLOWED INTO THE VENUE AND THEN WAIT ANOTHER HOUR FOR THE EVENT TO START. SO WE TYPICALLY, SAY THE EVENT STARTS AT 10:00 A.

M. , WE'RE BOTH UP AT LIKE 6:00. I'M UP AT 6:00, BECAUSE I SAID BEFORE THIS ON THE PRESHOW, THIS BUSINESS THAT IS MY FACE TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR TO GET READY. BUT AROUND 6:00 OR 7:00 WE HAVE TO GET UP AND THEN SPEND THREE HOURS WAITING IN LINE OR WAITING AROUND FOR THE SHOW TO START. SO THIS TIME AROUND, IT WAS REALLY NICE TO DO IT FROM HOME.

I DON'T KNOW IF MOVING FORWARD THAT'LL BE A PREFERRED OPTION. BUT I WAS ALSO ABLE TO JUST LIVESTREAM. SO WE DIDN'T TALK A LOT DURING THE SAMSUNG EVENT ITSELF, BUT WE HAD A POST SHOW ON THE ENGADGET YOUTUBE CHANNEL. YOU CAN GO WATCH THAT. IT'S STILL THERE IF YOU WANT TO.

AND IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN HAVING TO LIVE BLOG. WHICH, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN ME AT A SHOW -- YOU PROBABLY THINK I'M A MONSTER. BECAUSE I DON'T TALK TO PEOPLE. I'M JUST LIKE, DON'T TALK TO ME, I AM TYPING DOWN EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID ON STAGE. >> LET'S JUST TAKE A STEP BACK TOO HERE BECAUSE A LIVE BLOCK.

IF YOU'RE AN ENGADGET READER OR A LISTENER, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN US DOING LIVE BLOCKS FOR DECADES, OR AT LEAST THE PAST 15 YEARS. HOW LONG HAS ENGADGET'S BEEN AROUND? BUT LIVE BLOGGING, IT WAS THE DE FACTO WAY TO COVER A LIVE EVENT BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY JUST TRANSCRIBING WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, TAKING PHOTOS. I THINK WE'RE BEGINNING TO FEEL THAT LIVE BLOG IS OUTDATED BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S STREAMING THEIR OWN EVENTS. SO WHY WOULD A READER GO TO US WATCHING STATIC PHOTOS AND EVERYTHING? SO WE'RE DOING COMMENTARY OVER THESE LIVESTREAMS WHICH I THINK IS A LITTLE MORE ACCEPTABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> AND THE VALUE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THERE.

IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MANAGE BETWEEN LETTING SAMSUNG SPEAK AND ALSO ADDING YOUR OWN CONTEXT AND OPINION IN THE MOMENT. AND FOR ME I THINK THE VALUE IS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE SAMSUNG'S EVENT, I KNOW TYPICALLY MORE THAN THE AVERAGE VIEWER. AND SAMSUNG DOESN'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS DURING ITS STREAM EITHER. IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU A VERY POWERFUL PROCESSOR BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THE MODEL DURING THE LIVE STREAM. THAT'S WHERE I CAN JUMP IN AND SAY THAT'S A -- BLAH BLAH BLAH.

BUT OVERALL THE EVENT WAS GOOD. WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR VIDEO TEAM AS WELL WHO, SERIOUSLY KUDOS TO THEM, POWER OUTAGE AND THEY WERE STILL TROOPING ON. >> AND THIS WASN'T AN ENTIRELY VIRTUAL EVENT BECAUSE I KNOW CHRIS ALSO WENT IN AND TOOK A MEETING AND GOT TO SEE SOME PHONES IN PERSON. >> WE WERE ABLE TO GET A PREVIEW OF SOME OF THE DEVICES BEFOREHAND. WE HAD EVERYTHING READY TO GO AT 10:00 A.

M. , THE START OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT. AND WE HAD HANDS-ON WITH A NOTE 20 AND A NOTE 20 ULTRA. WELL, NOT REALLY HANDS ON. IT WAS A REALLY CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT.

>> UNLIKE OTHER EVENTS, IT'S NOT JUST US KIND OF SEEING STUFF VIRTUALLY. YOU CAN GET YOUR -- YOU CAN ACTUALLY LIKE FEEL IT. >> YEAH. SAMSUNG HAD TO GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO KIND OF PLAN IT OUT FOR US TO TRY THESE EVENTS OUT BEFOREHAND. >> AND DOING IT SECURELY AND EVERYTHING.

>> WITH ALL THE SAFETY PROCEDURES. AND I THINK THEY DID IT WELL. THEY DID ASK FOR FEEDBACK AHEAD OF TIME. AND I WAS, LIKE, YEAH, DO IT THIS WAY. >> EVERYONE IS JUST MAKING IT UP AS THEY GO ALONG.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THESE DEVICES. BECAUSE WEIRDLY I FEEL LIKE THE ONE THAT IS MOST EXCITING IS THE ONE WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET TO SEE AHEAD OF TIME. BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW REAL IT IS AT THIS POINT. AND THAT IS THE GALAXY Z FOLD 2. THE THIRD FOLDING PHONE FROM SAMSUNG, THE SECOND -- >> TECHNICALLY THE THIRD.

>> LIKE, IT'S ALSO VERY CONFUSING. BECAUSE THE FIRST FOLD WAS ESSENTIALLY A PROTOTYPE. THAT WAS A DISASTER OF A LAUNCH. IT WAS SO EXPENSIVE. FELL APART SO QUICKLY.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND READ UP ON THAT STUFF. BUT GALAXY FLIP FELT MORE LIKE A MORE POLISHED PRODUCT. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY LEARNED A LOT FROM THEIR MISTAKES. AND THE Z FOLD 2 SEEMS LIKE, OKAY, A LOT OF WHAT THEY LEARNED FROM THE GALAXY Z FLIP IS GOING INTO THAT I PHONE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, SHIRLENE? BECAUSE YOU'VE REVIEWED SOME OF THESE.

>> I'M SUPER HYPED FOR THESE. TO YOUR POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS GOING TO BE A THEME DURING THIS EPISODE IS SAMSUNG'S NAMING STANDARDS ARE JUST REALLY CONFUSING. THIS IS THE Z FOLD 2. NOW THE ORIGINAL FOLD WAS JUST A GALAXY FOLD. SOMEWHERE THEY DECIDED TO ADD THE Z AND CALL IT THE Z FLIP.

NOW IT'S THE Z FOLD 2. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A MISHMASH OF EVERYTHING. >> AND THEY DON'T HAVE SPACES IN THEIR NAMES ANYMORE. SO IT'S LIKE GALAXY Z FOLD2. THAT'S ONE WORD.

>> FOLDING 2 WHAT? ANYWAY, NAMING A SITE, THIS IS BY ALL APPEARANCES A VAST IMPROVEMENT OVER THE ORIGINAL FOLD. AGAIN, BASED ON JUST WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR, IT'S GOT A MUCH BIGGER 6.2 INCH SCREEN ON THE OUTSIDE WHEN THE FOLD IS FOLDED, WHEN THE Z FOLD 2 IS FOLDED UPON ITSELF. WHEN YOU OPEN IT UP IT'S MORE OF A 7.6 OR 7.8 DISPLAY. THAT'S A SIMILAR SIZE TO THE ORIGINAL FOLD WHICH WAS COMING IN ABOUT 8 INCHES. IT'S GOT A NICE KIND OF PUNCHBOWL CAMERA IN THE OPENED UP SCREEN.

RATHER THAN THIS KIND OF LIKE NOTCH BOAT THING THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL FOLD. SO, THE STYLE OF IT, THE DESIGN LOOKS MORE REFINED THAN BEFORE. THEY'RE ALSO SAYING THEY'RE USING THIS UTG, THIS ULTRA THIN GLASS THAT THEY HAD USED ON THE Z FLIP, WHICH WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT MADE THE Z FLIP FEEL A LOT SMOOTHER ON THE SURFACE OF THE SCREEN THAN THE FOLD. WHICH FELT KIND OF PLASTICY. AND, IN FACT, BACK THEN I THINK THEY WERE USING PLASTIC TOO.

BECAUSE GLASS DOESN'T FOLD. SAMSUNG HAD TO INVENT THIS WHOLE NEW THING THEY SAY, WHICH IS REALLY GLASS, BUT IT'S ULTRA THIN. IT'S THINNER THAN A HUMAN HAIR. >> WHICH DOESN'T SOUND -- AND THAT'S MAINLY FOR THE FEEL OF IT BECAUSE THE PLASTIC FEEL OF THE GALAXY FOLD SCREEN WAS NOT GREAT FOR SWIPING AND TOUCHING. >> YOU CAN VIEW COMPONENTS THROUGH THE SCREEN AS YOU'RE.

>> BUT ALSO A THIN LAYER OF GLASS I DON'T THINK REALLY ADDS MUCH PROTECTION. HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THE Z FLIP? >> I LIKE THE Z FLIP. IT ACTUALLY FELT STURDY. IT FELT LIKE SAMSUNG HAD LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS FROM WHAT CHRIS VELASCO CALLED A VERY PUBLIC EXPERIMENT. IT WAS BASICALLY A PUBLIC EXPERIMENT.

>> THE WORST EXPERIMENT. >> BUT SAD TO THE PEOPLE WHO SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BUYING THE PUBLIC EXPERIMENT. >> YEP. >> SO SAMSUNG LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS, IMPLEMENTED IT WITH A Z FLIP WHERE THEY BASICALLY HAD TO MAKE SURE THE SCREEN WAS TUCKED UNDER ALL THE BEZEL BITS THAT COVER THE SCREEN. THEY MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HINGE, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO GET TO IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THAT PREVENTS DUST FROM GETTING IN AND BREAKING WHICH MEANS THAT YOU GET STUCK WITH A HALF-OPEN OR CLOSED DEVICE. THESE IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE TO THE Z FLIP THAT -- I JUST LOVED IT. I ALSO JUST LOVED THE OLD SCHOOL NOSTALGIA VALUE OF HAVING A MOTOROLA RAZOR FEEL. >> POOR MOTOROLA AND THEIR RAZOR REBOOT. OH, MAN.

SAMSUNG JUST DID IT BETTER UNFORTUNATELY. >> YOU KNOW WHAT? GOOD FOR YOU, SAMSUNG. SAD THAT YOU'RE CRUSHING YOUR COMPETITION LIKE THIS, BUT GOOD FOR YOU FROM LEARNING FROM ALL THESE MISTAKES. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE I TYPICALLY RAG ON SAMSUNG. WHAT I DO IS RAG ON FIRST GENERATION PRODUCTS FROM EVERYBODY.

SAMSUNG NEEDS LIKE TWO OR THREE GENERATIONS TO REALLY GET A HANDLE OF ITITS PRODUCTS. I THINK THE GALAXY PHONES LIKE THE ORIGINAL GLAJY PHONES. IT WASN'T UNTIL THE S3 WHERE YOU'RE LIKE THIS IS REALLY GOOD. >> THE S 5 WAS LIKE OOH. >> APPLE STILL TAKES AT LEAST ONE GENERATION TO GET THINGS RIGHT.

BUT I THINK BY THE SECOND GEN, THEY GET IT RIGHT. THEY ALSO DON'T PROTOTYPE IN PUBLIC, WHICH SEEMS BAD. BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THESE CHANGES FOR THE Z FOLD 2. THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL FROM THE Z FLIP. BECAUSE THE HINGE THING.

ONE THING WE LEARNED FROM THE GALAXY FOLD IS THAT YOU HAVE A SCREEN THAT FOLDS WHEN YOU HAVE IT OPEN A LITTLE. THAT MEANS THERE'S A GAP. THAT MEANS THERE'S STUFF THAT CAN GET IN, DUST CAN GET IN. FOR VIEWERS THEY SAW THAT THAT COULD QUICKLY DESTROY THE HINGE OF THE ORIGINAL FOLD. SO THEY ADDED THIS VACUUM CLEANER-ESQUE BRUSH.

THEY SAY FOR THE Z FOLD 2, IT'S A LITTLE SMALLER AND THINNER. BUT IT BLOCKS DUST BUT IT ALSO WILL SELF-CLEAN THE PHONE TOO OR SELF-CLEAN THE HINGE. HERE'S THE THING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN TRUST SAMSUNG ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I FIX IT. I TORE APART THE Z FLIP.

AND I WAS LIKE THAT'S A TON OF CRAP IN THE HINGE. THE BRUSH DIDN'T BLOCK OR CLEAN OUT. I DON'T THINK IT'S FULLPROOF. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S FULLPROOF. I THINK MAYBE THE BRUSH IS IN THERE JUST TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF -- >> SOMETHING, YEAH.

>> EASE OF MOVEMENT IN THE HINGE WHEN THERE IS DUST IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE IDEA IS THAT ALSO TO YOUR POINT. LIKE, RIGHT WHEN DUST OR GRIT GETS IN THE HINGE MECHANISM, THEN WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR SCREEN YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR SOMETHING LIKE >> THEY'RE GOING TO GRIND ON EACH OTHER. YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO THE GUARD KIND OF MAKES THAT A LITTLE BIT EASIER. I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE IT'S GOING TO WORK OBVIOUSLY. I HAVE NOT TOUCHED A Z FOLD 2. AND THE Z FLIP FELT NICE. I HAVE VERY LIMITED TIME WITH IT.

BUT DURING THAT LIMITED TIME, AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL USING THE Z FLIP TODAY, WHAT WAS IT SIX MONTHS AGO? >> PEOPLE WHO AREN'T TECH REVIEWERS? >> NO, THEY ARE BUT THEY HAVE BEEN USING IT DAILY. WE'LL GET TO THAT. BUT THE BRUSH SEEMS TO WORK IN DAILY LIFE ON THE Z FLIP. MAYBE THAT'S JUST AN EASIER DEVICE BECAUSE IT'S SMALLER TOO. THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH A BIGGER SCREEN AND A BIGGER HINGE.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I AM VERY INTERESTED ABOUT THE Z FOLD 2 IS THAT THAT SCREEN IS NOT JUST BIGGER, THE ONE THAT YOU OPENED UP THE BIGGER 8-INCH SCREEN, IT'S ALSO 120 HERTZ I BELIEVE AN EMILAD. THEY JUST DEBUTED THAT ON THE NOTE 20 ULTRA WHICH WINDOW ALSO GET TO BUT NOT ON THE NOTE 20, WHICH IS BLASPHEMY. >> AND THAT'S THE THING, THE HOT THING WE WILL BE SEEING IN MORE PHONES IS FASTER REFRESH RATES GOING BEYOND 60 HERTZ. WE'RE ALL USED TO 60 HERTZ. ONCE YOU SEE BEYOND THAT, IT IS LIKE BUTTER.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. >> I AGREE. >> AND THE OUTSIDE SCREEN IS A LITTLE BIGGER TOO. IT'S NOT JUST LIKE A LITTLE SLIVER. >> THE WHOLE FRONT.

IT'S FINALLY LOOKING LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE USEABLE, WHICH IS GREAT. AND THE DESIGN LOOKS REFINED TO THE POINT WHERE IF IT'S FOLDED IN HALF AND YOU HOLD IT LIKE IT'S A REGULAR CANDY BAR PHONE, I GUESS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A CHUNKY, YOU KNOW, LIKE COUPLE OF CANDY BARS STUCK TOGETHER KIND OF SITUATION. >> OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING YEAR FOR DUAL-SCREEN PHONES BECAUSE THE SURFACE DUO IS STILL ON TRACK TO COME THIS YEAR. AND THAT IS MICROSOFT'S COURIER STYLE BOOKLET.

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS COMPETITION. I AM NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PRICE FOR THE Z FOLD 2. >> I WILL SAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE Z FOLD 2. ALL WE KNOW IS THE SCREEN SIZE, THE REFRESH RATE AND THE COLOR. THEY DEBUT IT ON SEPTEMBER 1st THERE WILL BE MORE NEWS TO SHOW ABOUT THE Z FOLD 2.

SO COME BACK AND CHECK IT OUT. BUT DETAILS LIKE THE PRICE HAVEN'T BEEN SHARED. BUT WE CAN MAKE EDUCATED GUESSES. >> THE FOLD WAS EXPENSIVE, THE ORIGINAL FOLD. >> IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND $2,400.

>> OOH. >> WHICH, OUCH. THEN THE Z FLIP WAS AROUND MORE LIKE 1,800, 16 HUNDRED DOLLARS. >> AN AFFORDABLE $1,800 PHONE. >> STILL FOR SOME PEOPLE A MONTH'S RENT.

>> IF YOU'RE LUCKY, YEAH. >> I KNOW. I WOULD EXPECT THE Z FOLD 2 TO BE NORTH OF $2,500 JUST BECAUSE IT'S NICER. BUT -- >> I FEEL REALISTICALLY THEY NEED TO STICK BETWEEN 2,000 AND $2,500. WE CAN'T KEEP PUSHING WITH BOUNDARY.

I DON'T RECOMMEND $2,000 COMPUTERS TO PEOPLE LET ALONE A PHONE. >> A LAPTOP DOESN'T EVEN COST THAT MUCH. >> MY FAVORITE LAPTOP IS EASILY BETWEEN 1,500 AND 1,200 BUCKS. >> MAYBE SAMSUNG'S GOING TO HEAR SOME OF THIS AND BE, LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT CHEAPER. HERE IT IS AT $1,999.

AND THAT'S STILL VERY EXPENSIVE. >> THAT'S OLD SAMSUNG THAT USED TO REALLY PUSH THEIR BOUNDARIES ON MARGINS AND EVERYTHING. I DON'T THINK NEW HIGH-TECH SAMSUNG IS ACTUALLY AT THE TOP OF THE FIELD WILL DO THAT. YOU WANT THIS COOL PHONE? GIVE ME $2,500. GIVE ME WHATEVER I SAY.

>> AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT EARLY GENERATION DEVICES, THE ORIGINAL FOLD, I, LIKE YOU, ALWAYS CAUTION AGAINST USING FIRST GEN DEVICES. THE GALAXY IS TECHNICALLY A THIRD GEN DEVICE. BUT IF YOU HOLD OUT ONE MORE YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MUCH BETTER DEVICE. SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL WAIT. >> JUST HOLD OUT.

SO WHAT ABOUT THE PHONES PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY GET? WHICH ARE ALSO STILL PRETTY EXPENSIVE BUT I THINK MORE REASONABLE. THE NOTE 20. >> YEAH. THERE ARE TWO NOTE 20s. LET'S BREAK THEM DOWN.

WE'VE GOT THE NOTE 20 AND THE NOTE 20 ULTRA. AND THE 20 ULTRA IS THE BIG BOY. IT'S GOT A 6.9 INCH SCREEN, 120 HERTZ REFRESH RATE. IT'S GOT THE, YOU KNOW, QUAD CAMERAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SIMILAR TO THE S 20 ULTRA WHERE THERE IS A SPACE ZOOM FEATURE.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE S PEN WHICH HAS BEEN IMPROVED TO HAVE A LATENCY OF NINE MILLISECONDS. AND TOGETHER WITH THE 120 HERTZ REFRESH RATE, THAT MAKES FOR LIKE -- MAKES YOUR WRITING JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S FINE. WHEN YOU'RE WRITING ON THE SCREEN, IT FEELS LIKE THERE IS ALMOST LITERALLY NO DELAY, WHICH, FOR ME AS AN S PEN USER IN THE PAST, I'VE NEVER EVEN REALLY HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE OLDER LATENCY RATE. >> IT'S ONE OF THOSE HIDDEN BENEFITS OF FASTER RESPONSE RATES. WE KEEP SAYING LIKE YOU HAVE TO SEE THESE THINGS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT MAKES THE PHONE SCREEN BETTER.

BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WITH A STYLUS, THAT IS ALL ABOUT THE INSTANCE OF DETECTING WHEN YOU'RE HITTING THE SCREEN AND HOW YOU'RE MOVING THE ACTUAL PEN. I THINK APPLE DID A GOOD JOB WITH THE iPAD PRO. BUT THE iPAD PRO ALSO HAD HIGHER REFRESH RATE SCREENS AND COMBINED WITH THE PENCIL THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF INTERACTING WITH THAT. THE THING I THINK FEELS THE BEST THOUGH IS THE SURFACE BECAUSE THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THE TIP. AND THEY MAKE IT FEEL LIKE PEN ON PAPER.

THAT'S THE EXPERIENCE I WANT. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN WE WERE PREPARING FOR THE SHOW TODAY. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE -- I'VE TRIED ALL THREE STYLI. WELL, NOT SO MUCH WITH THE PENCIL WHICH I HEAR IS A VERY GOOD STYLUS. BUT I HAVE SPENT TIME WITH THE S PEN AND THE S PEN 4 TABLET, WHICH IS MORE LIKE THE SURPASS P -- SURFACE PEN.

MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OF THE SCREEN THAT I'M USING, IT'S DRAGGY. >> THAT'S THE THING. THEY I DADDED RESISTANCE TO THA SCREEN. BECAUSE WHEN YOU WRITE ON PAPER, LIKE TO ME THAT'S THE EXPERIENCE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IS IF I'M JOTTING DOWN NOTES YOU FEEL THE FRICTION OF PEN ON PAPER. I DON'T WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST ZIPPING THROUGH GLASS.

>> EVERYONE HAS THEIR PREFERENCES. I WILL SAY I LIKE THE S PEN EXPERIENCE. IT'S BEEN VERY SMOOTH, VERY RESPONSIVE. WHAT I WANT SAMSUNG TO WORK ON NOW IS FIX YOUR PALM REJECTION. OH, MY GOSH.

>> HEY, IT'S ONLY BEEN NEARLY TEN YEARS SINCE THEY'VE BEEN MAKING THESE SMARTPHONES. THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED THAT WITH LIKE THE NOTE SERIES. BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT OF THE NOTE IS THAT YOU'RE HOLDING IT, IT'S A BIG PHONE, AND STILL HAVING PALM ISSUES? >> AND I'M SHOUTING OUT MORE TO MY LAST EXPERIENCE WITH THE S PEN WHICH WAS THE GALAXY TAB S 6 LITE. I DON'T GENERALLY HAVE PALM REJECTION ISSUES ON A NOTE BECAUSE I'M NOT LIKE -- I'M NOT PUTTING MY PALM DOWN. SO IT MIGHT NOT BE AS IMPORTANT ON A PHONE.

BUT LIKE THE TAB S 6 AND TAB S 7, PALM REJECTION'S VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S ONE THING WHERE SAMSUNG SOFTWARE FALLS SHORT. BUT THEY INTRODUCED SOME NEW SOFTWARE WITH THE NEW S 10. >> LET'S GO -- WHAT ABOUT THE NOTE 20s? WE GOT 5G. IS THAT EXCITING? IS THAT STANDARD OR DO YOU HAVE TO LIKE GO FOR THE -- >> IT'S STANDARD ACROSS BOTH DEVICES THIS TIME AROUND.

IF YOU'RE A PERSON THAT'S LOOKING TO BUY ONE OF THE NOTE 20s THIS YEAR, YOU'RE LIKELY GOING TO EXPECT 5G. NOW, IT IS A TRAVESTY THOUGH THAT SAMSUNG IS SELLING THE NOTE 20, THE SMALLER VERSION FOR $999 STARTING PRICE. AND IT'S A PLASTIC BACK. >> OOH, OKAY. >> CHRIS VELASCO DID A VERY GOOD EDITORIAL TAKE ON THAT SAYING IT'S -- >> HOW DARE YOU! >> HOW COULD YOU? IT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS PHONE WITH A PLASTIC BACK, A 60 HERTZ SCREEN.120 IS ONLY ON THE NOTE 20 ULTRA. THE SMALLER ONE GETS A 60 HERTZ SCREEN PLASTIC BACK AND SOME OTHER IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES.

>> I WAS READING THE COMMENTS ON THE VIDEO WE PUT OUT YESTERDAY AND EVERYONE SEEMED TO AGREE. ALL THE NOTE USERS, NOTE USERS DEMAND MORE FROM THEIR PHONES. >> IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PREMIUM. LET'S JUST TAKE A REWIND. YOU ARE SAYING 5G ACROSS THE LINE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR CONSUMERS? THAT MEANS FOR THE FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE 5G ACCESS, THEY CAN WALK DOWN LIKE A CITY BLOCK AND HAVE VERY FAST INTERNET. BUT IF THEY TURN LEFT OR TURN RIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO START TO HAVE TROUBLE. COVERAGE IS STILL BAD. >> YEAH. AGAIN, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING ME ON TWITTER ABOUT THE PIXEL 4 A AND 5G AND WHY IT DOESN'T HAVE 5G.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE FOR WHOM 5G IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE EITHER THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD ONTO THEIR PHONES FOR THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS AND THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE IT WHEN THE NETWORKS COME ON. OR THEY ARE ALREADY HAVING GOOD 5G COVERAGE IN A CITY. GOOD FOR YOU. BUT TO DEVINDRA'S POINT, YOUR EXPERIENCE IS GOING TO BE GOOD OR BAD DIVIDENDING ON THE TYPE OF 5G. THE 6 IS JUST A STEP ABOVE 4G LTE.

MILLIMETER 5G AND YOU'LL HEAR THIS CALLED ULTRA WIDE BAND ON SOME CARRIERS IS THE ONE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE VAST IMPROVEMENTS. BUT TO DEVINDRA'S POINT, IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN A SIGNAL. >> YOU NEED A LINE OF SIGHT. >> AND A LOT OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE WERE PROMISED THAT WOULD HELP MANAGE THIS CONNECTION LIKE BEAM TRACKING AREN'T ACTUALLY ON DEVICES YET. >> LET ME JUST EXPLAIN LINE OF SIGHT.

LINE OF SIGHT LITERALLY MEANS YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE A CELL TOWER TO GET A SIGNAL. SO IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE 5G PHONES, GO TO A STREET CORNER, WINK AT YOUR 5G TOWER, GET SOME FAST SPEEDS. YOU GO BACK HOME, YOU GO ANYWHERE ELSE. YOU HAVE ADDED THAT RANGE. YOU'RE BACK TO 4G BASICALLY.

>> COVERAGE IS VERY, VERY FINICKY. BUT I FEEL LIKE 5G IS THE LEAST WORRYING, THE LEAST OF MY CONCERNS. >> DO YOU THINK IT'S A FEATURE THAT SHOULD BE IN THESE PHONES? I GUESS FOR THE PREMIUM ONES BUT FOR A MID-RANGE, A 700 OR $800 SHOULD IT BE THERE AT THIS POINT? >> FOR A PHONE THAT I'M NOT GOING TO PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR. LIKE FOR THE 4A I DON'T NEED 5G. BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING THE NOTE WHO WANT THAT HIGH-END EXPERIENCE, YEAH, WHY NOT? >> I THINK THE "WHY NOT" MEANS THAT RADIO IS STRONGER, IT'S MORE POWERFUL.

WHO KNOWS WHAT THE BATTERY IS GOING TO BE. >> IT WILL TAKE A HIT ON THE BATTERY. AND SAMSUNG ALSO PUT IN BIGGER BATTERIES ON THESE NOTES. LISTEN, I KNOW 5G'S PROBLEMATIC, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT ON THE NOTE 20. >> WE CAN DO A 5G EPISODE.

>> WE ALREADY DID A 5G EPISODE. >> LIKE ANOTHER ONE. YOU HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT BECAUSE THESE PHONES ARE COMING, BUT IS YOUR DECISION BETWEEN DO YOU WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR 5G OR DO YOU WANT BETTER BATTERY LIFE BY STICKING WITH 4G WHICH IS STILL FAST FOR YOU? ANYWAY, HOW IS THE NOTE 20 DIFFERENT? BECAUSE THAT IS NEARLY A 7 INCH SCREEN. >> I DIDN'T LIKE THE S 20 ULTRA BECAUSE IT WAS A HUGE PHONE. IT'S SO HEAVY.

IT'S SO HARD TO USE. >> THAT'S A 7-INCH SCREEN. THAT'S A TABLET. >> THE NOTE 20 ULTRA IS A 6.9 INCH SCREEN. THEY EVEN THREW OUT THE WORD "FABRIC" DURING THE KEYNOTE.

IT WILL BE NICE TO PLAY GAMES ON. AND TO THAT POINT, SAMSUNG, GOSH, THEY PULLED UP SPENCER. HEAD OF XBOX TO TALK ABOUT XBOX GAMEPASS. DURING THE LIVESTREAM WHEN THAT HAPPENED ME AND CHRIS VELASCO ON OUR LIVESTREAM WENT, OH, SO SPENCER IS HERE? >> GAMEPASS AND X CLOUD. AND X CLOUD IS THE, LIKE, STREAMING GAME SERVICE THAT'S GOING TO BE LAUNCHING LATER THIS YEAR FOR GAMEPASS SUBSCRIBERS.

>> SO IF YOU PREORDER THE NOTE 20 ULTRA WITH THE BUNDLE, YOU ARE GOING TO GET THREE MONTHS OF XCLOUD AND GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO TRY THAT OUT. >> IT'S A $45 VALUE. >> I WAS VERY INTERESTED TO SEE MICROSOFT COLLABORATE SO TIGHTLY WITH SAMSUNG HERE BECAUSE THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE NOTE IS ITS MULTITASKING PRODUCTIVITY PROWESS. AND MICROSOFT HAS WORKED WITH SAMSUNG TO GET GOOD INTEGRATION WITH OFFICE TOOLS LIKE WORD, POWERPOINT, AND EXCEL ON THESE PHONES THROUGH, I GUESS, DEX. AND WE'LL GET TO DEX LATER ON.

>> THERE IS SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT! CURSE YOU, SAMSUNG. >> THIS EPISODE'S GOING TO BE LONG, Y'ALL. SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK COME BACK. BUT THE MICROSOFT COLLABORATION I'LL GET TO A BIT DEEPER WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE TABLET. BUT IT'S VERY INTRIGUING TO ME THAT MICROSOFT CHOSE TO PARTNER WITH GOOGLE.

>> THIS COULD BE MICROSOFT'S FIRST STEP. BUT WHAT'S THE NEXT GADGET? >> IT'S A CLEAN SEG RIGHT INTO THE TAB S 7 AND THE S 7 PLUS. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU LISTENING TO THE PODCAST AND WHEREVER, I ALREADY HAVE A HANDS ON WITH IT. I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE TOUCHED THIS THING. IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

HOLY CRAP. IN MY ARTICLE I CALLED IT THE ROLLS-ROYCE OF ANDROID TABLETS, WHICH IS A LOW BAR. IN THE U. S. IT'S YOUR BEST PREMIUM BECAUSE GOOGLE STOPPED MAKING TABLETS ANYWAY.

IT FEELS REALLY GOOD. THAT SCREEN ON THE S 7 PLUS WHICH IS THE UNIT THAT I RECEIVE IS A 12.4 INCH, 120 HERTZ SUPER AMULET. THIS THING LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. I HAVE BEEN USING IT TO DRAW. I'VE BEEN WATCHING SOME THINGS, I HAVE SOME VIDEOS.

IT'S GORGEOUS, THE WALLPAPER THAT SAMSUNG PUT ON THERE. IT ALSO COMES WITH AN IMPROVED KEYBOARD CASE. I HAVE HAD HAD MAJOR ISSUES WITH SAMSUNG'S TABLET KEYBOARD CASES, MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE SOMETIMES FLIMSY BUT VERY CRAMMED AND NOT VERY USEABLE. WITH THE NEW TAB S 7s YOU HAVE AN LCD. >> WHOA, WHAT? HAVEN'T ALL THE TABS UP UNTIL NOW BEEN AMA -- >> THE LIGHT THAT WAS JUST RELEASED WAS NOT.

BUT, YEAH, THE MORE PREMIUM ONES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SUPER AMALET. >> THIS IS THE FEATURE STEP BACK FROM. >> IT'S VERY STRANGE. IT'S A TALE OF TWO TABLETS. >> I STILL HAVE A GALAXY TAB S 2 SITTING AROUND THAT I HAVE REVIEWED BACK IN THE DAY.

THEY HAD GORGEOUS AMOLED SCREENS. AND THEY STILL HOLD UP TODAY. BUT, ANYHOW, BACK TO THE POINT ABOUT THE KEYBOARD COVERS. IN OLDER SAMSUNG TABLETS IN RECENT YEARS TEND TO BE 10.5 INCH. NOW WE'VE GOT AN 11 INCH ON THE S 7, A 12.4 INCH, AND THESE ARE LARGER WHICH MEANS MORE ROOM FOR AN ACTUAL WALL-SPACED KEYS. >> DO THEY ACTUALLY FEEL GOOD TO TYPE ON? >> OH, MY LORD.

SO I HAVE IT HERE WITH ME. AND I WILL BE SHOWING THIS ON LIVESTREAM. BUT I ALSO DO WANT TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF SOUND EFFECT ON THE PODCAST. I'M GOING TO DO THIS. I HAVE THE KEYBOARD.

>> KEYBOARD FEEDBACK SOUNDS. THIS IS THE VERY SURFACE-LOOKING COVER. >> IT'S A VERY SURFACE LOOKING. THE KEYS HERE. I WAS SURPRISED.

THEY WERE VERY -- THEY HAD A LOT OF TRAVEL. THERE'S A LOT OF FEEDBACK. IT'S CLICKIER THAN I'M USED TO. >> IT'S CLICKIER. I CAN SEE ACTUAL DEPTH.

KEYBOARD ASMR IS A THING THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET. BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT. I WOULD PROBABLY REALLY ENJOY IT. THAT'S HOW I JUDGE MY KEY BOARDS. >> WE'LL GET BACK TO MORE ON THE S 7 PLUS KEYBOARD SO THOSE OF YOU WATCHING CAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT.

BUT FOR THE AUDIO LISTENERS, THIS KEYBOARD FEELS REALLY GOOD. I CAN TELL YOU THIS. THE TYPING ON IT WAS REALLY NICE. THE TRACK PAD IS A LITTLE WIDER THAN BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE ADDED REAL ESTATE. BUT IT STILL FEELS LIKE A TRACK PAD ON A KEYBOARD CASE.

IT'S NOT ONE -- IT'S NOT COMPARABLE TO SOMETHING ON A LAPTOP WHERE SOMETIMES IT'S GLASS COVERED AND IT FEELS SMOOTHER AND BETTER. BUT IT WORKS. NOW THAT SAMSUNG FEELS LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPROVED WITH THE KEYBOARD COVER, MY MAIN ISSUE, AND I'VE HAD THIS ISSUE WITH SAMSUNG'S TABLETS TWO IN ONES IN THE PAST, DEX MODE. I GET IT. YOU'RE TRYING.

THAT'S REALLY GOOD, DEVINDRA. >> I'VE BEEN ARGUING FOR A WHILE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GREAT. >> AND, YOU KNOW WHAT? KUDOS ON SAMSUNG FOR TRYING TO ITERATE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BUT IT STILL NEEDS A LOT OF WORK. >> WHAT IS DEX MODE AT A BROAD LEVEL? >> ON A BROAD LEVEL DEX MODE IS THIS DESKTOP INTERFACE, THIS DESKTOP UI THAT RUNS ON TOP OF ANDROID.

SO WHEN YOU ACTIVATE IT, IN THE PAST YOU HAD TO ACTIVATE IT YOURSELF. WHEN YOU ACTIVATE IT, IT BRINGS UP INSTEAD OF LIKE A HOME SCREEN WITH ALL YOUR APP ICONS LITTERED ALL OVER THE PAGE WITH YOUR CLOCK WIDGET AT THE TOP, IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A WINDOWS DESKTOP WHERE YOU HAVE APP ICONS LINED UP ON THE LEFT, SORT OF APP LAUNCHER AT THE BOTTOM LEFT, AND THEN A TASK BAR AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. AND THEN YOU CAN RUN APPS IN FLOATING WINDOWS ON THIS MODE. >> WE'VE RECREATED THE 20-YEAR-OLD DESKTOP OS PARADIGM TABLET. AMAZING.

>> RIGHT. AND THIS HAS BEEN ON DEX FOR YEARS, A COUPLE YEARS AT THE VERY LEAST. AND IT'S STILL LARGELY THE SAME. BUT DEX THIS TIME AROUND GOT ONE OF A FEW UPDATES, WHICH IS WIRELESS SYNC TO SAMSUNG SMART TV. >> OKAY.

SO THAT'S USEFUL. BUT IT'S STILL KIND OF SOMETHING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SAMSUNG TV AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROBABLY A NEWER SAMSUNG TV TO MAKE THIS WORK. BUT BEFORE ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT DEX ON THE PHONE, IT WAS, HEY, PLUG YOUR PHONE INTO YOUR MONITOR AND THEN YOU CAN PLUG IN A KEYBOARD OR MOUSE. AND YOU CAN HAVE A WEIRD CRAPPY DESKTOP EXPERIENCE WHILE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING ACCESS TO YOUR PHONE.

IT WAS NOT GREAT. >> YEAH. >> WIRELESS COULD BE BETTER. >> THIS IS A WELCOME IMPROVEMENT. ON THE TAB S 7 PLUS WHEN YOU SNAP ON THE KEYBOARD, DEX LAUNCHES AUTOMATICALLY BECAUSE, DUH.

AND THEY ADDED SUPPORT FOR MULTIFINGER GESTURES ON THE TRACK PAD. SO NOW YOU CAN SWIPE UP AND DOWN WITH TWO FINGERS AND LAUNCH THE APP DRAWER FROM THE HOME PAGE. YOU CAN SWITCH BETWEEN APPS MUCH MORE INTUITIVE. >> THOSE ARE iPAD TESTERS BY THE WAY. >> BUT I AM SWITCHING FROM A PC TO THE DEX.

AND IT WAS FINE. I JUST THINK THAT -- I STILL RAN INTO SOME ISSUES. I WILL SAY THAT THE SOFTWARE THAT I'M RUNNING WAS NOT FINAL. THIS IS A HANDS-ON PREVIEW UNIT. SAMSUNG IS REALLY QUICK TO CAUTION THAT WE DON'T DRAW ANY, LIKE, FINAL IMPRESSIONS OFF THIS.

>> I LIKE HOW SAMSUNG'S NEW STRATEGY IS SEND YOU THINGS, LIKE, GUYS, IS IT WORKING? >> LET'S JUST SAY THIS ISN'T A NEW STRATEGY. I WILL SAY THAT, YEAH, UNTIL THIS TABLET LAUNCHES OFFICIALLY, THEY'RE SAYING IN THE FALL BUT IN THE KEYNOTE THEY SAID AUGUST 21st. I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN PREORDER IT. AT THAT TIME I REALLY WISH SAMSUNG DOES SOMETHING TO MAKE DEXTER. I AM ALREADY INTRIGUED BY OTHER SOFTWARE THOUGH.

SAMSUNG NOTES I WAS TRYING TO GET AT WITH THE NOTE 20 AS WELL, HAS SOME MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, YOU CAN IMPORT PDFs AND ANNOTATE THEM WITH THE S PEN, WHICH IS REALLY HANDY WHEN YOU NEED TO SIGN A DOCUMENT ON THE GO. THE OTHER MORE INTRIGUING THING IS AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION. YOU CAN PULL IN AN AUDIO RECORDING OR RECORD AUDIO FROM THE APP AND AS YOU'RE RECORDING, WRITE NOTES AND HAVE YOUR NOTES SYNC TO THE TIME OF WHEN THE RECORDING IS. SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU PLAY IT BACK, YOU JOT DOWN A NOTE AT 3 MINUTES IN.

>> THAT'S INCREDIBLE. >> AND IT'S LIKE GOOGLE'S RECORDING APP ALREADY. BUT FOR SAMSUNG TO DO IT AND SEEMINGLY DO IT BETTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWING TIME SAVE. I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO CHECK THAT OUT. >> WE'LL SEE.

THIS SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAKES A GREAT DEMO AND ONCE YOU START USING IT WHO KNOWS HOW REALISTIC IT ACTUALLY IS. ONE THING ABOUT NOTES, TOO, THAT MICROSOFT PARTNERSHIP GOES ALL THE WAY TO NOTES. LIKE THAT'S GOING TO SYNC TO OUTLOOK. YOUR SAMSUNG NOTES ARE GOING TO SYNC TO ONENOTE. >> LIVESYNC.

>> THAT'S SOME USEFUL USABILITY STUFF FOR PC USERS LIKE WHEN YOU'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH TO DEVICES. WHAT ARE THE PRICES FOR THESE THINGS, SHIRLENE, AND HOW DO YOU THINK THEY COMPARE TO BASICALLY TO THE iPAD PRO, WHICH SEEMS LIKE WHAT THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST? >> YEAH. SO GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I'M PULLING UP THE EXACT PRICES. >> WE HAVE TO FINISH THIS UP BEFORE WE GO TO THE OTHER DEVICES.

>> NO, I KNOW THAT THEY COMPARE ACTUALLY TO THE iPAD PRO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN THE iPAD PRO. >> THAT SOUNDS BETTER. >> IT WAS ABOUT LIKE 899 OR 849 STARTING PRICE FOR THE LARGER ONE AND THEN AROUND THE 699 OR 649 FOR THE SMALLER S 7. BUT THAT PRICE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE KEYBOARD. >> NO! I HATE THIS.

>> SIMILARLY TO THE iPAD PRO THOUGH YOU HAVE TO SHELL OUT -- BUT SAMSUNG DOES THROW IN THE S PEN FOR THAT PRICE. >> WHOOP-DY-DOO. WE'LL SEE HOW THEY HOLD UP. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR FULL PREVIEW. I WANT TO PLAY WITH THESE AT SOME POINTS.

I WISH ANDROID TABLETS DIDN'T JUST DIE. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE GAVE UP ON THEM. >> I STILL LOVE THEM. I THINK WE SHOULD DO BRIEFLY JUST QUICKLY LET'S DO WATCH 3. >> WE GOT A QUICK NOTE FROM ERIC IN THE YOUTUBE CHAT, DOES THE NOTE 20 ULTRA -- IS IT THE ONLY TWICE WITH THE -- THE NOTE 20 ULTRA THE X AND Os.

IN THE U. S. WE'RE GOING TO GET THE PLUS IN. OTHER REGIONS WE'RE HEARING THAT -- YEAH, LIKE ASIA MIGHT BE GETTING THE XNOS VERSION. THIS HAS BEEN SAMSUNG'S TACTIC FOR A WHILE.

WE CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU WHY WE DON'T KNOW. THE SNOS HAS CLOCKED ON THE BENCHMARK IN THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THAT MUCH BETTER THAN THE A 65 PLUS. BECAUSE IT'S BRAND NEW, HASN'T LAUNCHED ANYWHERE EXCEPT FOR ON THE ACUS ROCK 3. WE'LL GET A SENSE OF IT ONCE WE HAVE THE UNITS.

I'M GETTING IN THE UNITS VERY, VERY SOON. YOU'LL WANT TO STAY TUNED TO ENGADGET. COM AND KEEP THROWING YOUR QUESTIONS AT US. ANYONE ELSE? >> LET'S FINISH UP SAMSUNG. >> SO LET'S GO STRAIGHT INTO THE WATCH 3.

I'LL JUST THROW THIS TO YOU. REAL QUICK, SHIRLENE, BECAUSE WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THESE PHONES. GALAXY WATCH 3, WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT IT? WHAT'S NEW AND TELL US ABOUT THE BUDS LIVE AS WELL. >> WHY SHOULD YOU CARE ABOUT THE WATCH 3? WELL, FOR ONE THING, YOU'LL GET THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU SHOULD CARE. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO CARE.

YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THE APPLE WATCH. >> THIS IS A TECH REVIEW WHERE WE'RE JUST GIVING UP. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU SHOULD CARE ABOUT THIS. >> BECAUSE I THINK THE MAIN THING WITH THE WATCH 3 IS THAT IT GETS A SET OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT SEEM PIECEMEAL BUT I THINK TOGETHER MAKE IT A BETTER HEALTH TRACKING DEVICE. THE HARDWARE'S LARGELY THE SAME.

QUICK NOTE, THAT NAME IS CONFUSING AS HELL. I HAVE GOT PEOPLE ON MY TWITTER TELLING ME TO TALK ABOUT THIS. YES, IT IS SO CONFUSING. IT'S THE GALAXY WATCH 3 BUT TECHNICALLY IT'S ONLY THE SECOND GALAXY WATCH. IN BETWEEN YOU'VE HAD THE GALAXY WATCH ACTIVE AND THE WATCH ACTIVE 2.

>> THE GEAR IS BEFORE THEY RENAMED EVERYTHING TO THE GALAXY WATCH. SO LET'S FORGET ABOUT IT. WE START WITH THE GALAXY WATCH WHICH WAS LAUNCHED TWO YEARS AGO. THEN THE WATCH ACTIVE, THE WATCH ACTIVE 2 AND NOW WE HAVE THE WATCH ACTIVE 3. TO ME IS LIKE YOU SKIPPED THE SECOND.

>> WE WENT FROM GALAXY S 10 TO 20. WE WENT FROM NOTE -- LIKE, NUMBERS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING. NOTHING MEANS ANYTHING IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING IN 2020, NOTHING MEANS ANYTHING. THANK YOU, SAMSUNG FOR PROVING IT. OKAY, WHAT ELSE? >> WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THIS PODCAST SHORT SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR MY FULL THOUGHTS ON THE WATCH 3.

SO GO TO THE WEBSITE. BUT THEY'RE GETTING A LOT OF NEW HEALTH TOOLS LIKE THE ECG FEATURE THAT WAS ALREADY ON THE APPLE SERIES WATCH 4. THERE IS AN ELECTRODE ON THE SIDE OF THE BEZEL WHERE THERE ARE BUTTONS. YOU PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT. WHEN WE WERE BRIEFED ON THIS A FEW DAYS BEFORE UNPACKED WE WERE TOLD THIS IS AWAITING FDA APPROVAL BUT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ONLY IN KOREA AT LAUNCH.

BUT DURING THE EVENT WE WERE, LIKE, WE CAN SAY NOW THAT IT GOT FDA APPROVAL. IT FEELS LIKE AT SOME POINT THEY GOT FTA APPROVAL AND THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE U. S. IN THE COMING, I DON'T KNOW, MONTHS. >> A 2-YEAR-OLD APPLE WATCH FEATURE, GREAT.

>> THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER FEATURE THAT SAMSUNG BORROWED FROM THE APPLE WATCH THAT THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT DURING THE KEYNOTE. IT WAS TRIP DETECTION. LIKE WHEN I'M GOING ON A TRIP YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THAT I'VE LEFT THE COUNTRY? IT'S ACTUALLY THEIR WAY OF REWORDING APPLE'S FALL DETECTION. SO WHEN YOU'VE FALLEN DOWN. THEY CAN'T SAY FALLEN DOWN BECAUSE THAT'S TOO APPLEESQUE.

BUT WHEN YOU'VE FALLEN DOWN WHILE YOU'RE IN MOTION, THEY WILL RECOGNIZE THAT AND PING YOU TO SEE IF YOU'RE OKAY. AND IF YOU'RE NOT THEY WILL SEND EMERGENCY ALERTS TO YOUR FOUR CONTACTS THAT YOU'VE SET UP IN THE SAMSUNG HEALTH APP. >> THIS IS WHERE I FEEL SAMSUNG'S LANGUAGE TENDS TO FAIL. BECAUSE WE TRIP ALL THE TIME. I TRIP ON THE SIDEWALK.

I TRIP ON THE COUCH. A FALL IS VERY DIFFERENT. THAT IS WHEN YOU GO FULL FLAT ON YOUR BUTT OR FACE OR SOMETHING. LIKE THAT IS A SERIOUS THING WHERE YOU MAY NEED HELP. I DON'T THINK THEY QUITE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE THERE.

>> ANYHOW, THAT FEATURE HAS BEEN ADDED. THERE'S ALSO A NEW BLOOD PRESSURE MONITORING FEATURE THAT USES AN ALGORITHM TO CALCULATE YOUR SYSTOLIC AND DIASTOLIY RATES. I'M SURPRISE YOU SAY THAT IT'S COOL. BLOOD PRESSURE MONITORING SERVICE ON THE WATCH 3, YOU'LL FIRST NEED TO CALIBRATE IT WITH A BLOOD PRESSURE CUFF. >> BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY JUST DO IT WITH THE DEVICE.

YOU NEED THE CUFF. >> AND EVERY MONTH YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECALIBRATE IT. SO WHY DO I NEED THE WATCH? >> THEY SHOULD GIVE YOU THE CUFF WITH THE WATCH. I CAN'T GET OVER THE TRIP DETECTION. WILL THE WATCH JUST LIKE EVERY TIME I, LIKE, SLIP A LITTLE ON THE CARPET, IS THE WATCH GOING TO BE, LIKE, HEY, HEY, YOU OKAY, MAN? >> MAYBE.

I HAVEN'T USED IT. >> IT COULD BE VERY, LIKE, SIMPLE HOUSE TRIPS LIKE THAT'S IT. I SEE YOU'VE HIT YOUR KNEE ON THE COUCH. ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU FINE? >> WELL, THEY DID GO TO LENGTHS TO EXPLAIN THAT THEIR TRIP DETENTION WILL ONLY HAPPEN WHILE YOU'RE IN MOTION, NOT WHILE YOU'RE IDLE OR WHATEVER. SO, I DON'T KNOW.

I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW IT'LL WORK. >> I JUST IMAGINE TRIPPING OVER MY CAT AND BIXBY BEING LIKE IS YOUR CAT OKAY? >> THIS MEANS THAT WHEN I'M REVIEWING THIS WATCH I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TRIP A FEW TIMES. >> I'M SORRY I'M NOT THERE TO -- >> USE YOUR LEG TO TRIP ME? THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER NEW FEATURES COMING UP WITH THE WATCH 3. I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE NEW HEALTH TRACKING AND -- >> DO YOU HAVE A HANDS ON ALREADY? >> IT'S COMING. WE HAVE A SORT OF LIGHT FIRST LOOK KIND OF STORY ALREADY ON THE SITE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF THE GALAXY WATCH LINE IS ITS SPINNING BEZEL. THERE'S A DIFFERENT FEEL TO IT. BUT I'M GETTING NOTES FROM OUR PRODUCER THAT I NEED TO HURRY THE HELL UP. >> DON'T SAY THAT ON AIR. MOVE TO THE NEXT TOPIC.

THERE ARE THE NEW GALAXY BUDS LIVE WHICH LIKE EVERY OTHER COMPANY ON EARTH, SAMSUNG HAS BEEN MAKING THIS HAPPEN. >> BY THE WAY, THEY HAVE HAD TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER FRICKEN NAME INTO THEIR LINEUP BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GALAXY BUDS, THE GALAXY BUDS LIVE. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT LIVE MEANS HERE. BUT MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S FOR LIFE. >> THEY'RE LIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE LITTLE PEA-SHAPED THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE SUPPOSITORIES.

>> THE REST OF THE INTERNET HAS BEEN CALLING THEM THE BEANS. >> LISTEN, WE HAVE A REVIEW THAT JUST WENT UP ON ENGADGET. COM BY OUR AUDIO GURU BILLY STEEL. SO MAKE SURE TO CHECK THAT OUT ON ENGADGET. COM.

HE HAS SOME THOUGHTS. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE GALAXY BUDS LIVE, BY THE WAY WHICH RETAIL FOR $169 IS THAT THEY PROMISE THIS THING CALLED OPEN ACTIVE NOISE-CANCELLING. AND HONESTLY -- >> THAT'S WILD TO ME. >> TRICKY WORDING. >> AN OPEN HEADPHONE MEANS YOU'RE ACTUALLY HEARING OUTSIDE NOISE.

IT'S MORE LIKE HOW THE NORMAL AIR PODS WORK. BUT THEY'RE HAVING NOISE CANCELATION TO THAT WHICH DOES NOT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE NOISE CANCELATION IS ALL ABOUT HAVING A SEAL FROM THE OUTSIDE WORLD. IT IS VINEGAR AND WATER BASICALLY THAT THEY'RE MIXING. >> THERE IS A VENT ON THESE BUDS THAT LETS AIR AND SOUND THROUGH. SO THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN HAVE A NOISE SEAL ON THESE THINGS.

>> SURE, YEAH. >> AND SO OPEN ACTIVE NO NOISE-CANCELLING, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT SEEING A DIFFERENCE AT ALL WHEN YOU TURN ON THIS NOISE-CANCELLING OR NOT. >> THAT SHOULDN'T WORK. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. >> SO DON'T EXPECT THAT KIND OF NOISE-CANCELLING FROM THESE BUDS.

IF YOU WANT BETTER BATTERY LIFE AND BETTER SOUND QUALITY AND A GOOD NOISE-CANCELING OR SORT OF A NOISE-ISH SEAL, THE GALAXY BUDS I THINK ARE STILL VERY GOOD. THEY DON'T HAVE ACTUAL NOISE-CANCELLING BUT THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD AT BLOCKING OUT SOUND. >> THIS IS LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SURFACE AIR BUDS AND THE AIR PODS PRO. THE SURFACE EAR BUDS WERE ALL ABOUT HAVING AN OPEN THING SO YOU CAN WEAR THEM ALL DAY AND STILL HEAR THE WORLD AROUND YOU. I THINK THAT'S WHAT SAMSUNG IS GOING FOR.

THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR THE OUTSIDE WORLD. >> IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PRODUCT. THAT'S WHY THEY MADE IT LOOK NICER TOO. I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THEY DO LIKE NICE. I KNOW YOU THINK THEY LOOK LIKE SUPPOSITORIES.

>> WE'RE GOING FROM BUDS TO IN SOMETHING ELSE BUDS BASICALLY. THE BEST SOUND QUALITY. BONE CONDUCTION. >> I WILL SAY ONE QUICK THING, THE BATTERY LIFE ON THIS THING IS RATED FOR ABOUT SIX HOURS IF YOU HAVE ALWAYS ON FEATURES ON. EIGHT HOURS OF PLAYBACK NONSTOP.

AND THEN THAT'S STILL LESS THAN THE GALAXY BUDS PLUS WHICH WERE ABOUT 10 AND 12 HOURS. SO DON'T EXPECT TOO MUCH OF THE BATTERY LIFE HERE. >> I DON'T. AND WHAT WAS THE PRICING AGAIN? >> IT WAS ABOUT $169. >> THAT IS THE RANGE WE'RE SEEING.150 TO 200 IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ANOTHER HEADPHONE ROUNDUP AT SOME POINT.

>> FOR THE FULL BREAKDOWN AND OUR REVIEW, CHECK OUT ENGADGET. COM. BILLY STEEL'S REVIEW IS ALREADY LIVE. >> OKAY. GREAT.

>> SORRY FOR CALLING YOU OUT. I NEED TO PAUSE. >> PERFECT TIMING. >> SO I'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >> LET'S DO SOME QUESTIONS.

SHIRLENE IS GOING TO GO GET HER NEW PHONE. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE YOUTUBE CHANNEL? >> LITERALLY A REVIEW UNIT COMING IN RIGHT NOW. >> COMING IN HOT! >> YES. AT THE VERY BEGINNING, LIKE JUST AS WE STARTED, MATT SMITH FROM ENGADGET POPPED IN SAYING I'M LISTENING WHILE TRYING TO INSTALL NEW JOYCON SHELLS. SO THANKS, MATT.

>> BEN, WE GOT TO GIVE YOU A FULL RUN-DOWN FOR EVERYBODY IN ENGADGET BECAUSE SOME DID JOIN. THEY WERE LIKE RANDOM YOUTUBERS. NICK, WE LOVE YOU. COME ON. >> I LOOKED THROUGH THAT AND I SAW, OH, NICK SOMERS.

>> EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE ADORABLE GAMING, LIKE HE WRITES ABOUT GAMES. HE WRITES ABOUT EVERYTHING SO WELL. LOVE YOU, NICK. ANY QUESTIONS, MAN? WHAT'S GOING ON? >> YEAH. WE HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE TAB S 7 PLUS HAS THE SAME ISSUE WITH PALM REJECTION.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PALM REJECTION. >> WE WERE, YEAH. LET'S HAVE SHIRLENE BRING THAT UP WHEN SHE COMES BACK. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WAS WHERE SHE WAS HAVING THE PALM REJECTION ISSUES. I'VE, YEAH.

I REMEMBER REVIEWING LIKE THE S 3 AND S 4 BACK IN THE DAYS. THOSE DEFINITELY HAD WEIRD ISSUES. AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT'S PROBABLY ALSO BEST FOR SHIRLENE. TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE TRIP DETECTION ON THE GALAXY WATCH 3 WOULD WORK. LIKE, HOW WOULD THAT WORK FOR SOMEONE WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENT? >> I COULD IMAGINE.

HOW ABOUT NONSHIRLENE QUESTIONS? BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO FILL TIME WHEN SHIRLENE IS AWAY. HELLO, PEOPLE. I HOPE YOU'VE ALL BEEN ENTERTAINED BY US. LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS MORE FUN. BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS AS AN AUDIO SHOW FOR SO LONG.

SO I AM USED TO JUST STARING AT MY SCREEN AND MAKING FUN OF SHIRLENE ALL MORNING. NOW WE HAVE TO THINK OF AN AUDIENCE AND IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. >> WE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE CHAT. WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 5G, WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT HOW BAD 5G. YOU CAN GO BACK AND LISTEN TO AN EPISODE THAT WE DID JUST IN MAY ABOUT WHY 5G ISN'T HARMFUL.

AND THERE IS ACTUALLY AN ENTIRE LIKE PSYCHOLOGICAL HISTORY OF PEOPLE BEING AFRAID OF NEW TECHNOLOGY. >> WHEN I SAY 5G IS BAD, I MEAN NOT THAT IT WILL HURT YOU. I MEAN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF 5G IN AMERICA IS A NIGHTMARE. AND YOU SHOULD NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT YOUR -- LIKE, DON'T RUSH TO GET A 5G PHONE ANY TIME SOON. THIS WHOLE THING IS A MESS.

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. >> ALTHOUGH IT DOES KEEP IT INTERESTING FOR ME. I THINK WE'VE GOT ONE QUESTION ABOUT JUST LIKE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE GALAXY S PEN. DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT? >> I MEAN, I DO. I'VE BEEN TESTING THESE THINGS OUT FOR A WHILE TOO.

I HAVE NOT SEEN THE NEW STUFF. BUT THE S PEN I THINK PEOPLE WHO REALLY LIKE HANDWRITING AND, LIKE, JOTTING DOWN NOTES. I CAN SEE WHY THEY LIKE IT. FOR ME OVER THE YEARS I'VE LEARNED TO, LIKE, THUMB TYPE FASTER THAN I CAN EVEN LIKE SCRIBBLE NOTES. BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENT PSYCHOLOGICAL SHIFT IN TERMS OF WRITING NOTES COMPARED TO TYPING THEM.

AND FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT HELPS THEM MEMORIZE THINGS A BIT MORE. AND ALSO FOR -- I THINK THE BIG THING WITH THE S PEN IS FOR WHERE YOU'RE WRITING CHARACTERS MORE THAN LETTERS ON A KEYBOARD. THAT'S USEFUL TO HAVE TOO. >> THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. >> OR LIKE YOU'RE JUST JOTTING DOWN DIAGRAMS.

I COULD SEE THE POINT FOR IT. I DON'T KNOW WHY -- I'M STILL SHOCKED THAT THEY ARE PUTTING PLASTIC BACK ON THE S 20 -- ON THE NOTE S 20 BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE NOTE HAS BEEN THEIR HIGHER PROFILE LINE FOR SOME TIME. THAT'S WILD TO ME. SAMSUNG IS TAKING A STEP BACK IN SOME WAYS AND I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT. >> IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THUMB TYPING THINGS BECAUSE FOR THE LAST LIKE YEAR OR SO, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW THE SCRIPT HAS TOTALLY FLIPPED ON THAT FAMOUS SCENE FROM THE BOONDOCKS ANIMATED SERIES WHERE IT'S LIKE NOBODY WANTS TO READ ANYTHING THAT YOU TYPE WITH YOUR THUMBS.

THAT'S JUST STUPID. IT'S LIKE ACTUALLY WE TYPE EVERYTHING WITH OUR THUMBS. >> NOW IT'S TEN-SECOND VIDEOS. NOBODY WANTS TO READ ANYTHING. THAT'S ALL WE WANT IS SHORT, LOOPING VIDEOS.

READING IS DEAD, KIDS. >> NONSPONSORED SHUTOUT TO BYTE. OR THEY NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT BYTE. BYTE IS WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO WITH VINETUBE WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED THAT IN LIKE 2017 OR 2018. >> RIP, VINE.

IF THEY HAD ACTUALLY INVESTED IN VINE, LIKE TIKTOK BASICALLY TOOK THE VINE FORMULA AND JUST ADDED MUSIC AND THEY ADDED LIKE LICENSE-FREE MUSIC TOO. THE SPIRIT OF THE INTERNET WHERE YOU'RE JUST STEALING CONTENT TO CREATE NEW CONTENT IS ALIVE IN TIKTOK. >> IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO MONETIZE CULTURE THOUGH. >> SURE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF THE VINE POST MORTEMS HAVE SAID.

LIKE YOU CAN PUT MORE ADS ON AND LIKE THAT MIGHT HELP. BUT, LIKE -- >> IF TWITTER WAS A STRONGER COMPANY AND THEY WERE, LIKE, MOVING ALONG AND THEN THEY HAD THIS VINE THING AS LIKE A MEME GENERATOR JUST TO CREATE CONTENT, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE VALUE. BUT, YEAH, VINE AS A BUSINESS ON ITS OWN, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT DIDN'T REALLY SUCCEED. THERE IS THAT. I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING.

BY THE WAY, SHOUT OUT TO -- I LIKE TO SHOUT OUT TO STUFF FROM OTHER PUBLICATIONS. I THINK "WIRED" HAD A GOOD COVER STORY RECENTLY ABOUT TIKTOK AND HOW IT'S ALSO KIND OF A CULTURAL VACUUM AND HOW IT'S BASICALLY VACUUMING IN BLACK CULTURE AND BLACK MUSIC AND SPITTING IT BACK OUT WITH WHITE TIKTOKers. >> YEAH. I THINK I SAW THAT. THAT IS KIND OF INTERESTING.

THAT WAS "WIRED," RIGHT? >> YEAH. SO I THINK THE WAY WE CONSUME INTERNET CULTURE AND THE WAY WE CREATE IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO THINK A LOT MORE ABOUT AND MAYBE THIS IS A TOPIC FOR A FUTURE EPISODE. BECAUSE I WANT TO BE -- I BROWSE THROUGH TIKTOK BUT IT'S NOT LIKE I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT. I SEE GOOD TIKTOKS WHEN THEY END UP ON TWITTER BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MEDIA PEOPLE LOVE TO HANG OUT. AND TWITTER IS MORE OF A CONVERSATION.

TIKTOK IS LIKE I'M EITHER CREATING SOMETHING COOL OR MEME-WORTHY AND I'M WATCHING OTHER PEOPLE DIVE INTO THE MEMES AND I'M MEMED OUT, I'M JUST TOO OLD FOR THIS. >> WE ACTUALLY JUST GOT A REALLY INTERESTING POINT OF VIEW FROM DOUG. HE SAID DO YOU THINK THE MICROPHONE FOR THE NEW TABLETS SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON MORE pBECA MEETINGS? IS IT POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE ARE -- THAT COMPANIES ARE FOCUSING MORE ON THAT? >> YOU'RE THE AUDIO GUY. >> I'D SAY THAT IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT REALLY ANY LIKE PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY OR ENTERTAINMENT THAT YOU INTERACT WITH, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS IN THE WORKS FOR MONTHS, MAYBE YEARS BEFORE IT REACHES THE PUBLIC.

BUT I THINK -- THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW OUR CURRENT DYNAMIC AFFECTS -- >> AND I'M BACK. >> LIKE WHAT PEOPLE WANT. >> ONE THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS TOO IS PCs AND LAPTOPS HAVE REALLY BEEN PUSHING MICROPHONE ARRAYS. THAT'S THE IDEA WHERE IT'S NOT JUST ONE MICROPHONE ON YOUR MACHINE, IT IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM. AND THEY'RE BUILT FOR ALEXA AND THEY'RE BUILT FOR CORTANA AND EVERYTHING.

RIP CORTANA ACTUALLY. WE SHOULD DO AN EPISODE ABOUT THAT. BUT I HOPE TABLETS AND I HOPE OTHER THINGS START TO TAKE THAT MICROPHONE STUFF IN. >> HEADPHONES, SHIRLENE. >> MY HEADPHONES ARE ON, WHY? >> WHY AM I HEARING FEEDBACK? OR I'M HEARING US TALKING.

>> NO, OKAY. >> MAYBE SOMEONE'S WATCHING THE YOUTUBE STREAM. BUT HI, GUYS, I'M BACK. DO YOU ALL MIND IF I SHOW PEOPLE? >> I'M GOING TO RUN TO THE BATHROOM. >> I'LL HAVE SOME TIME RIGHT NOW TO TALK TO THE LIVESTREAM PEOPLE.

GUESS WHAT I JUST GOT IN THE MAIL? YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK. THIS IS THE GALAXY NOTE 20 ULTRA OVER HERE AND A BOX THAT I QUICKLY DISINFECTED. AND THEN THE GALAXY WATCH ACTIVE 3 OVER HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THE UNBOXING FOR THE END OF THIS STREAM. BUT AFTER WE RECORD THE PODCAST, STICK AROUND BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW-AND-TELL THESE THINGS.

>> WE'LL DO A LITTLE Q&A AT THE END OF THE EPISODE. SHIRLENE, DEV AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT IS PROBABLY MORE IN YOUR WHEELHOUSE. >> WHAT UP? AKHMED IN THE CHAT SAID IN THE CHAT, DOES THE TAB S 7 PLUS HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH PALM REJECTION? CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? >> SO I CAN'T TALK ANYTHING ABOUT SOFTWARE REALLY. I HAVEN'T -- AGAIN, SAMSUNG WAS VERY CLEAR TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT FINAL SO THEY REALLY DIDN'T WANT US TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. IF THEY WORK ON THE SOFTWARE IN BETWEEN NOW AND SELLING THE DEVICE, ME TELLING YOU THAT PALM REJECTION DOESN'T WORK NOW IS NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL.

SO I WILL SAY THAT I DID DRAW A LITTLE BIT WITH THE S PEN, AND IT SEEMED OKAY. I GOT QUICK, LIKE, PALM THING HAPPENING. BUT IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS LEADING MY PALM ON THE TRACK PAD KEY COVER WHILE I WAS DRAWING ON THE SCREEN. BUT THAT'S JUST ME BEING REALLY DUMB. I'M SORRY I CAN'T HELP YOU MORE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT STAY TUNED FOR THE REVIEW. I DEFINITELY WILL SHOUT THAT OUT IN THE REVIEW. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. WE GOT AN INTERESTING COMMENT FROM REMINGTON SAYING THAT THE TRIP DETECTION WOULD BE GOOD FOR PEOPLE WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENT. >> YES.

>> THAT'S TOTALLY TRUE. AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW THE GALAXY WATCHES AND REALLY ALL OF THE SMART WATCHES COULD BE THE MORE FUNCTIONAL, MORE STYLISH LIFE ALERT "I HAVE FALLEN AND I CAN'T GET UP" SITUATION. >> HI, THE TECH INDUSTRY HAS BEEN CALLING THEM THAT FOR A WHILE. THE JOKE HAS BEEN, YEAH, I'VE FALLEN AND I CAN'T GET UP. ABSOLUTELY IT COULD BE HELPFUL FOR ANYBODY WITH SORT OF MOBILITY ISSUES OR VISUAL IMPAIRMENT.

SO DEFINITELY A GOOD POINT TO RAISE UP. PLEASE GIVE ME ANY THOUGHT ON HOW YOU THINK I SHOULD TEST THAT FEATURE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OTHER THAN DELIBERATELY TRIPPING. >> I WANT TO SEE THAT. SO IF YOU DO A PRODUCT REVIEW VIDEO, WE WANT TO SEE YOU DO LIKE A COMPLETELY STUPID PRAT FALL.

>> I WILL VACUUM THE OFFICE. >> SEPIA TONE AS YOU ARE FALLING EXACTLY LIKE THE ADS ON TV. >> BACK IN THE OFFICE LIKE IT WOULD'VE BEEN FUN TO DO A VIDEO JUST JUMPING OUT FROM THE SIDE LIKE TRIPPING SHIRLENE AS SHE WAS WALKING DOWN THE HALL. >> I THINK WE TRIED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE APPLE WATCH VIDEO. >> IT'S HARD.

NOW THAT YOU'RE BACK DO WE WANT TO MOVE ON WITH WHAT WAS NEXT? >> DO YOU GUYS DO YOUR -- >> WE'RE NOT DOING A FULL UNBOXING. WE ARE GOING TO SAVE THAT FOR THE Q&A AFTER WE ARE DONE RECORDING THE PODCAST. >> YOUR CAMERA'S MOVING UP AND UP AND UP. >> I AM SORRY. >> YOU'RE FLOATING AWAY ON ME.

LET'S MOVE ON. >> I'M WIPING THIS THING. >> BEN, APOLOGIES FOR THE CAN OPENING NOISE I DIDN'T MUTE BEFORE. >> WHAT DO YOU GOT THERE? >> I GOT A LEMONCELLO. I HAVE BEEN WORKING MY BUTT OFF.

>> THAT'S WHY I'M LEAVING THE CONVERSATION TO SHIRLENE'S EXPERTISE. >> YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW. YOU'VE DONE ALL THE WORK FOR THESE PAST TWO WEEKS. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE CELEBRATING SHIRLENE'S WORK AND WE ARE READY TO GO ON TO THE PIXEL 4 A. WE ARE BACK IN PODCAST MODE, PEOPLE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE Q&A. >> THANKS FOR THE PATIENCE WHILE I WENT TO GRAB -- >> WE NEED TO DO A SHOW WHERE WE JUST HANG OUT FOR AN HOUR AND TALK TO EVERYBODY ON THE STREAM. THAT WAS MY PITCH. >> SO, YEAH. JUST TEE IT UP AND LET SHIRLENE GO.

>> SHIRLENE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PIXEL 4A. YOU CALLED IT THE BEST MID-RANGE, THE BEST $350 SMARTPHONE. I AGREE WITH YOU. FOR ONCE, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. IT LOOKS FANTASTIC.

LIKE HOW IS IT. >> SO MY BIGGEST THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT FOR $350, YOU'RE GETTING A FLAGSHIP LEVEL CAMERA AND FLAGSHIP LEVEL PERFORMANCE. THE HARDWARE ITSELF IN TERMS OF THE CPU MIGHT NOT BE FLAGSHIP LEVEL. BUT THE CAMERA, IT'S THE SAME SENSOR AS ON THE PIXEL 4. AND BECAUSE OF GOOGLE'S PROCESSING ALGORITHM, IT'S JUST MUCH BETTER THAN ANY SUB $400 CAMERA I'VE SEEN.

AND TO ME, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT MID-RANGE PHONES TEND TO FALL SHORT ON AND TO SEE THIS BE SO MUCH BETTER NOW. AGAIN, FLAGSHIP LEVEL, I PLAYED THE GAME WITH CHRIS VELASCO DURING MY REVIEW PERIOD WHERE I'M, LIKE, HEY, BRO, GUESS WHICH PHONE TOOK THIS, THE 4 OR THE 4A. AND HE ONLY GUESSED IT RIGHT LIKE 50% OF THE TIME. IT'S SO HARD TO TELL. THESE ARE THE TWO MAIN THINGS FOR ME, THE CAMERA AND PERFORMANCE.

THIS IS 5.8 INCH DISPLAY. IT'S AN OLED. AND ACTUALLY -- NOPE, ACTUALLY I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S AN OLED. >> I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S OLED FOR 350. >> LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.

YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUNNY THING IS THAT LIKE I JUST WROTE THIS REVIEW NOT THAT LONG AGO. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER. BECAUSE MY HEAD IS FULL OF SAMSUNG STUFF RIGHT NOW. >> I GO BACK AND SEE SOMETHING I'VE WRITTEN A YEAR AGO AND HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF THAT AT ALL. >> I'M QUITE CONFIDENT IT'S AN OLED.

BUT LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. OH, YEP, IT IS AN OLED. WITH A CUT-OUT TRANSMISSIBLE HOLDER CALLING IT FOR THE CAMERA ON THE FRONT FOR $350. >> BECAUSE COMPARE THAT TO THE iPHONE SE 2, THE PRODUCER BEN HAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED. THAT IS STILL ROCKING THE OLD LIKE iPHONE 8 CASE BASICALLY.

>> BEN ASKED ME TO -- >> SORRY, BEN. >> FOR GETTING THE iPHONE SE 2020 EDITION. >> JUST WITH THE DESIGN AND LOOK. LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS THE BETTER OPTION CLEARLY. >> I WOULD SAY THAT LIKE THE DESIGN IS SO MUCH MORE MODERN THANKS TO THIS ALL-SCREEN LOOK.

AND WE HAVE -- WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME HARDWARE. I SAY WE LIKE I'M PART OF THIS TEAM. THE PIXEL 4 A DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME HARDWARE IN TERMS OF A HIGH-END PROCESSOR LIKE THE iPHONE SE DOES. THAT ONE IS THE CHIP SET WHICH POWERS LIKES OF THE 11 PRO. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE HERE MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE.

NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE THE OS, WHICH IS ANDROID 10, RUN REALLY FAST BUT IT ALSO MAKES THE BATTERY SOMEHOW LAST LONGER. BATTERY LIFE WAS A HUGE CONCERN FOR PIXEL DEVICES. THE 3 WAS SMALL. THE 4 IS WHERE GOOGLE STARTED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. THE 3A WAS FINE TOO.

BUT THE 4A, I WON'T SAY IT BLEW ME AWAY. LIKE IT WASN'T THE LONGEST LASTING BUT IT BEAT THE iPHONE SE. AND IT GENERALLY STICKS AROUND FOR A DAY AND A HALF EASY. >> I KIND OF WANT TO GET THIS FOR MY WIFE. BECAUSE SHE IS UNFORTUNATELY STAUNCH TEAM ANDROID WHICH MAKES IT REALLY HARD FOR OUR DEVICES TO CO-EXIST IN THE WORLD.

BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE SMALLEST ANDROID DEVICES OUT THERE NOW FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT PINT-SIZED PHONE, THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR SMALL HANDS, I IMAGINE. >> YEAH. I LOVE THE SIZE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS GOOGLE HAD TO DO TO CUT DOWN PRODUCTION COSTS, WHICH IS, LIKE THEY HAD TO MINIMIZE EVERYTHING TO JUST ONE VARIANT. THERE IS JUST ONE SIZE.

LIKE MOST MID-RANGE PHONES FROM BIG MAKERS LIKE SAMSUNG, 1 PLUS AND APPLE ARE IN ONE SIZE. BUT THERE'S ALSO ONLY ONE COLOR VARIANT. IT'S ONLY IN THIS JUST BLACK, VERY BASIC LOOKING COLOR. >> LIKE, PEOPLE WOULD JUMP ON DIFFERENT COLORS. PEOPLE LOVE PERSONALIZING IN SO MANY WAYS.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY PUT A CASE ON IT TOO. YOU CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. >> EXACTLY. >> I THINK THAT GOOGLE TRIMMED THE RIGHT FAT HERE. THE TRIMMING WAS IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE AND THEN GIVE US WHAT MATTERS.

SO WHAT MATTERS TO ME, EVEN THOUGH THE BATTERY SIZE TECHNICALLY IS A LITTLE BIT SMALL. BUT THEY WORKED HARD TO MAKE THAT LAST A LITTLE LONGER. NOW, CAVEAT HERE THAT I THINK OVER TIME THIS NUMBER WILL FALL. I THINK THAT THE BATTERY PERFORMANCE WILL DETERIORATE BUT EVERY PHONE DETERIORATES OVER TIME. SO THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE.

WHAT ELSE ABOUT THIS? ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE WATER RESISTANCE RATED. I HAVE HAD THIS THING FALL LIKE TWO OR THREE TIMES NOW BECAUSE I'M VERY CARELESS. >> THAT'S A RED FLAG BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY ONE OF THE PHONES I BOUGHT MY WIFE AT ONE POINT SHE LEFT OUTSIDE IN THE RAIN. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A BABY AROUND, THINGS HAPPEN. PHONES GET WET AND I FEEL LIKE THE BASICS OF WATER RESISTANCE IS A THING WE SHOULD HAVE ON ALL OF OUR DEVICES.

SO THAT'S BAD. >> I WILL SAY THE WATER RESISTANCE IS LIKE AN ISSUE FOR ME, BUT THE DURABILITY IS NOT BAD AT ALL. THIS THING HAS FALLEN ON ITS FACE, ON ITS BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND NOT A SCRATCH. WHEREAS THE 1 PLUS NORD, HE DIDN'T EVEN DROP IT.

>> BY THE WAY, THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE WITH EVERY SINGLE 1 PLUS DEVICE. AS GREAT AS THEY LOOK, IF YOU PUT THAT IN A JEANS POCKET FOR A WEEK, IT WILL COME OUT SOMEHOW THE SCREEN IS CRACKED. SOMEHOW AN EDGE HAS A BIG GASH ON IT. THAT IS WHAT YOU GIVE UP WITH 1 PLUS UNFORTUNATELY. >> IT'S A NICER BUILD AND EVERYTHING AND IT'S GOT NICE COLORS AND IT'S GOT MORE CAMERAS ON THE BACK.

BUT IT'S ALSO NOT AVAILABLE IN THE U. S. AND IT COST $50 MORE. AGAIN, IN THE A BIG DEAL. BUT STILL SOMETHING THAT SOME PEOPLE WILL BE CONCERNED ABOUT IN TERMS OF -- ANOTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SHOUT OUT ON THE PIXEL 4 A, THE FINGERPRINT SENSOR, Y'ALL.

I LOVE IT. I MAINTAIN THAT FINGERPRINT SENSORS STILL NEED TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE. WHE WHETHER YOU MOVE IT UNDER THE DISPLAY OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN WE ARE ALL WEARING MASKS NOW AND WILL BE FOR A WHILE, FINGERPRINT SENSOR IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND THERE'S ALSO THE -- WHICH ONE OF OUR LISTENERS EMAILED US A WHILE AGO SAYING THAT HE'S VERY CONCERNED THAT THEY'RE GOING AWAY FOREVER. THEY ARE GOING AWAY.

BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE ONE NEW PHONE TO BUY BEFORE IT GOES AWAY. AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THIS PHONE. >> I'M REALLY DIGGING IT. I WANT TO GET MY HANDS ON IT TOO. I MISS THE -- IT USED TO BE I FEEL LIKE WE WERE REALLY WORKING HARD TO GET PHONES DOWN CHEAPER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE.

AND THEN GOOGLE SHIFTED. LIKE, THEY MADE THE PIXEL LINE A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE NEXUS LINE. AND THEN PHONES STARTED GOING BEYOND $1,000. AND I FEEL LIKE WE WENT INTO CRAZY TOWN. GIVE ME CHEAPER PHONES, THE HARDWARE CAN BE CHEAP, MORE AFFORDABLE AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT. >> I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT TRYING VERY HARD TO MAKE A GOOD PHONE WITH WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN AND WHAT YOU'VE GOT. AND GOOGLE IS TRYING TO DO THAT WITH THE PIXEL 4 A. AND WE HAVE AN ARTICLE FROM CHRIS VELASCO BECAUSE WE DID AN INTERVIEW WITH GOOGLE'S LEAD PRODUCT ABOUT HOW IT WAS ABLE TO GET THE DEVICE SO CHEAP. WHAT THEY TOLD US WAS THEY SENT THEMSELVES TO TARGET TO MAKE THIS THE BEST PHONE FOR $400.

AND GOOGLE'S ENGINEERS WENT ABOUT AND DID SUCH A GREAT JOB THAT THEY WERE LIKE WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THIS FOR $350. >> THAT'S AMAZING, SURE. >> THAT'S TO ME INCREDIBLE. A LOT OF IT IS SOFTWARE. NOW, SPEAKING OF SOFTWARE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO SHOUT OUT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BLEW ME AWAY ABOUT THE PIXEL 4 A IS THE SOFTWARE. THERE'S A LOT OF FEATURES THAT HELP GOOGLE SET ITS SERIES APART FROM OTHER ANDROID PHONES. YOU ALREADY HAD CALL SCREENING AND THE NEW ASSISTANT WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE 4 A. BUT WITH THE 4 A THEY INTRODUCED LIVE CAPTION FOR CALLS. TO ME THIS IS HUGE.

TO ME I FIRMLY BELIEVE ANY ACCESSIBILITY TOOL WE CAN INCLUDE IN OUR DEVICES THAT WILL REALLY HELP PEOPLE IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE TO HAVE IT IN EVERY PHONE. LIVE CAPTION WAS ALREADY ON OLDER PIXEL PHONES. NOW IT'S GETTING ROLLED OUT FOR CALLS. ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH WHY THEY COULDN'T ADD IT TO PHONES BEFORE WAS THAT IT WOULD COME UP WITH CAPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TALKING TO YOU ON THE PHONE AND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE SCREEN SHOTTED. SO THAT'S KIND OF DICEY.

THERE'S ISSUES WITH CONSENT. GOOGLE'S FOUND A WORKAROUND. WHENEVER YOU HAVE YOUR LIVE CAPTIONS FOR CALLS WHICH WORKS ON CELLULAR VOICE APPS, VIDEO APPS, WHATEVER IT IS, GOOGLE WILL FIRST ALERT THE PERSON YOU ARE TALKING TO THAT YOU'RE USING LIVE CAPTION FOR CALLS AND THAT WHAT YOU SAY WILL SHOW UP, WHAT THEY SAY WILL SHOW UP ON YOUR SCREEN. AND THEN TAKE OVER. SO, THE TRANSCRIPTION WASN'T COMPLETELY ACCURATE.

IT'S JUST, IF YOU'VE USED RECORDER APP, IF YOU'VE USED ANY OF GOOGLE'S VOICE TO SPEECH FEATURES, IT'S ABOUT 95% ACCURATE. >> DOES THIS DO ANY TRANSLATION? BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG THING. >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I ASKED THEM TOO. AND IT'S NOT YET. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE -- >> MICROSOFT, I LOVE THAT MICROSOFT AND GOOGLE ARE KIND OF PUSHING EACH OTHER TO SEE WHO'S DOING BEST.

MICROSOFT BROUGHT IN BASICALLY LIVE TRANSCRIPTIONS OF SKYPE, I BELIEVE, AND MORE TRANSLATION TECH. I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THAT WORKS. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TEST IT. I DO KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN EXPLORING IT. THIS IS THE FUTURE OF OUR TECH.

WHEN I TRAVEL AGAIN, I CAN'T WAIT TILL I CAN HAVE LIVE SUB TITLES LIKE WHEN YOU GO SOMEWHERE OVER MY AUGMENTED REALITY GLASSES. YES, PLEASE. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING. >> THAT'S THE WORLD WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS. I MAKE A BIG DEAL OF LIVE CAPTION AND LIVE CAPTION FOR CALLS AS BEING AN IMPORTANT ACCESSIBILITY FEATURE AND IT IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HARD-OF-HEARING AND DEAF.

BUT IT'S USEFUL FOR EVERYONE. IF YOU'RE ON AN AIRPLANE AND THE JET ENGINE NOISE IS TOO LOUD AND YOU WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS VIDEO AND IT WORKS FOR VIDEOS YOU HAVE ON YOUR PHONE, IT WILL WORK. IT'LL SHOW YOU AS A BACKUP FOR WHAT YOU NEED TO HEAR OR SEE, IT WORKS IN SUBWAY STATIONS, NOISY CAFES, WHEREVER YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE AUDIO OUT OR YOU CAN'T HEAR THE AUDIO AND YOU NEED LIVE CAPTIONS, IT'S USEFUL. I THINK THIS IS THOUGHTFUL ON THE PART OF GOOGLE AND COMPANIES LIKE MICROSOFT AS WELL. I WANT TO SEE MORE OF THIS.

>> AND GREAT PHONE OVERALL. A NICE RETURN TO FORM FOR GOOGLE BASICALLY. >> YEAH. I AGREE. I MEAN, THERE IS JUST, FOR THE PRICE THERE'S NO BETTER PHONE.

SORRY, BEN, WHO JUST GOT THE iPHONE SE. >> TECHNICALLY A FASTER PROCESSOR. BUT IT'S A PHONE. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO PUSH THAT HARDWARE, YOU KNOW. LIKE THE CAMERA MATTERS FOR, THE FORM FACTOR MATTERS MORE.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO EVENTUALLY HEAR FROM BEN HOW MUCH BETTER HE'S GETTING ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE -- IT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS DOING pH GETTING. >> OH, BOY. SPEAKING OF APPLE AND SPEAKING OF THE iPHONE, THERE WAS A BIT OF AN APPLE REFRESH THIS WEEK, WHICH REALLY FELT LIKE THEY'RE DOING THE ANIME THING, THEY'RE DOING NOTICE ME SEMPI. I HAVE HARDWARE 2 THAT IS A LAST MINUTE REFRESH OF THE 27-INCH iMAC. NOTHING SUPER EXCITING.

THE DESIGN IS THE SAME AS BEFORE THE COOL THING IS THEY FINALLY HAVE THE TENTH GEN INTEL CHIPS. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT THING. THIS MAY BE THE FINAL BIG INTEL REFRESH BEFORE THEY START MOVING TO ARM NEXT YEAR. I STILL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT FEELS LIKE, IT'S LIKE BABE RUTH LIKE POINTING OUT AND SAYING I'M GOING TO SWING THE BALL THAT HARD.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE CHIPS READY TO POWER SOMETHING LIKE AN iMAC BY NEXT YEAR. MAYBE THEY WILL SURPRISE US. FIRST OF ALL IT'S WEIRD THAT THEY EVEN TOLD US THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING AND WOULD BE COMING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT ANYWAY THESE SOUND LIKE GOOD iMACs. TENTH GEN INTEL CHIPS. IT IS 2020 AND IT TOOK APPLE UNTIL 2020 TO MAKE SSDs STANDARD ON THEIR, LIKE, VERY POPULAR ALL-IN-ONE PCs. I'M A BIT SHOCKED BY THAT. BECAUSE BY NOW WE'RE INTO LIKE THE SECOND GENERATION OF SSDs.

WE'RE NOW INTO TALKING ABOUT THE FASTER MVME SSDs THAT GIVE YOU PC ISPEEDS. WE ARE AT THAT POINT NOW AND APPLE IS, LIKE, HEY, OKAY, YEAH, I GUESS LET'S MAKE THEM STANDARD. ANYWAY, THAT'S NICE. >> I THINK OUR EDITOR IN CHIEF DANA WAS WORKING ON COVERAGE AND SHE BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THIS HAS A 1080P WEB CAM. >> AMAZING.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S CRAZY? ALL OF APPLE'S MACHINES, EACH THE EXCELLENT MacBOOK PRO, AMAZING COMPUTERS.720P WEB CAMS. IT'S LIKE APPLE WAS JUST STUCK WITH THAT SENSOR AND THEY JUST NEVER WANTED TO MOVE ON. SO, YEAH. FINALLY THEY HAVE 1080P IN ONE OF THEIR BUILT-IN WEB CAMS IN 2020. IT TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH, APPLE.

>> A LOT OF LAPTOPS DON'T HAVE GOOD WEB CAMS ANYWAY. >> BUT I FEEL LIKE ALL-IN-ONEs TRY A LITTLE HARDER USUALLY. AND IF I BUY A MacBOOK PRO, I'M EXPECTING SOMETHING BETTER THAN A TYPICAL CRAPPY PC WEB CAM. BUT, ANYWAY, WE'VE SEEN SOME FOOTAGE TOO FROM DANA ON THIS WEB CAM. IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT STAND-ALONE WEB CAM, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'D WANT THESE DAYS.

SO, THESE ARE EXCITING. YOU'VE GOT RADION, LIKE YOU CAN GET DECENT GRAPHICS IN THERE. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE NEW AMD/RDNA CARDS. DECENT PERFORMANCE FOR VIDEO WORK AND COMPUTATION WORK. YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO BE PLAYING GAMES ON MACs.

LIKE APPLE HAS JUST NEVER BEEN INTO THAT. NEW IMACs, THEY'RE BETTER FOR PEOPLE WHO CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT AN iMAC. WE'LL SEE WHAT NEXT YEAR BRINGS. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE BIG ONE. BREAK? >> BREAK.

ANY Q&A ON THESE? ANY QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. SO THERE WAS ONE REALLY GOOD QUESTION THAT CAME IN FROM DOUG. HE SAID THAT LOOKING AT THE PIXEL 4A AND AT THE NOTE 20. WHAT JUSTIFIES THE $650 PRICE DIFFERENCE? IS IT A BETTER SCREEN AND CAMERA WORTH THE DIFFERENCE IF THE PIXEL WILL PAST LONGER BECAUSE OF FIRST-PARTY UPDATE SUPPORT? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NOTE 20 AND NOT A NOTE 20 ULTRA, IT'S BIGGER, IT'S A 6.4 INCH SCREEN VERSUS A 5.8 INCH. SO IF YOU LIKE A BIGGER PHONE, SURE.

THE PROCESSOR ITSELF IS DIFFERENT. THE NOTE 20 HAS AN A 65 PLUS. STARTS WITH I THINK -- IT HAS 6 GIGS RAM. AMAZING. >> AND I PREFER THE SOFTWARE ON PIXELS.

I DON'T REALLY LIKE SAMSUNG SOFTWARE. >> IS IT STILL TOUCH WIZ? >> 1 UI. BUT THEN THE NOTE HAS THE S PEN WHICH I THINK IS AN ADVANTAGE. THE CAMERA SETUP IS MORE INTENSE ON THE NOTE 20. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS THE NOTE 20 ULTRA.

BUT YOU GET THAT EXTRA WIDE ANGLE LENS. YOU'VE GOT SOME SORT OF SPACE ZOOM, NOT AS MUCH AS 100 TIMES BUT PRETTY DECENT. AND, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR THE $650 DIFFERENCE.5G SUPPORT. A BIGGER BATTERY.

AND, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M SURE YOU'RE PAYING A LOT FOR THAT SAMSUNG NOTE SERIES PREMIUM. >> IF YOU WANT 5G SUPPORT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE PAYING MORE ON YOUR CELLULAR BILL FOR THAT TOO. SO THAT IS -- NOT JUST FOR BANDWIDTH. I THINK EVEN UNLOCKING 5G ON SOME CARRIERS IS A MORE EXPENSIVE SUBSCRIPTION. >> I THINK T-MOBILE HAS SAID THAT THEY WON'T CHARGE MORE FOR 5G, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE FINE PRINT ON ANY OF THAT.

WE'LL HAVE TO TALK TO CARRIERS TO LEARN MORE. BUT I WILL SAY TO YOUR POINT THAT THIS IS A VERY GOOD POINT.350 PHONE. I PERSONALLY WANT TO SEE HOW THEY HOLD UP OVER TIME. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THIS 730G ON THE PIXEL WILL DETERIORATE FASTER THAN, SAY, THE A65 PLUS OR IF THE COMPONENTS JUST AREN'T AS HIGH END SO THEY QUICKLY BECOME LESS POWERFUL. BUT THE NOTE 20 ALSO TENDS TO DETERIORATE QUICKLY.

>> YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW LONG PEOPLE USE THEIR PHONES. I FEEL LIKE TWO YEARS IS A GOOD AVERAGE LIFESPAN. DON'T CHANGE YOUR PHONE EVERY YEAR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, FOLKS. AND WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO BY SPENDING 350 BUCKS ON THE PHONE THAT EXTRA $700, OR 650 YOU COULD PUT TOWARDS ANYTHING.

YOU CAN BUY A LAPTOP. YOU CAN DO SO MUCH IN YOUR LIFE WITH THE MONEY YOU ARE SAVING BY NOT GETTING THE SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE PHONE. GO AHEAD. >> LET'S GO IN ON -- LET'S COMBINE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND WORKING ON. SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT AT THE TOP IS BREAKING NEWS AND THEN JUST GO STRAIGHT INTO WORKING ON.

>> FOR EVERYONE THAT'S WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM, STICK AROUND BECAUSE ONCE WE'RE DONE RECORDING THE PODCAST PART OF THIS, WE WILL DO THE UNBOXING OF THE NOTE 20 AND GALAXY. WE'RE TEN TO 15 MINUTES OUT. >> SURE. >> HOPEFULLY. >> AND JUST ONE MORE THING.

IF YOUTUBE CHAT IS NOT YOUR BAG, YOU CAN ALSO GET YOUR COMMENTS IN BY TWEETING @ENGADGET WITH THE #PODCASTLIVE. SO I'M WATCHING THAT. AND SO IF FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR A POSITION IN THE YOU TUBE CHAT, YOU CAN FIGHT FOR A POSITION IN THE TWEET COLUMN THAT I HAVE. >> WE'RE GOING TO WRAP THIS QUICKLY. LET'S HIT THE BREAKING NEWS, GO STRAIGHT INTO WORKING ON.

>> IN SOME BIG NEWS THIS WEEK, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS REALLY TRYING TO, I DON'T KNOW, PUT ITS THUMB ON THE SCALES OF TECH. WE LEARNED JUST AS WE WERE STARTING TO RECORD THIS MORNING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION STARTED TALKING ABOUT EXTRA RESTRICTIONS THEY WANT TO PLACE ON CHINESE COMPANIES, EFFECTIVELY CREATING A TECHNOLOGY WALL AGAINST CHINESE COMPANIES. AND THAT MEANS LIKE GETTING THEM TO REMOVE THEIR APPS FROM U. S. DEVICES AND U.

S. STORES, AND ALSO BLOCK CHINA FROM HAVING ACCESS TO APPS IN THE U. S. THIS SEEMS LIKE COMPLETE MAKE-BELIEVE, BUT THIS IS NOT SURPRISING GIVEN LIKE THE SORT OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, POLITICAL WALL BUILDING PHILOSOPHY THEY HAVE BEEN GOING WITH. WHAT DO YOU THINK, SHIRLENE? DOES THIS SEEM FEASIBLE OR ANYTHING? >> FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T LIKE THE WALL ANALOGY.

JUST STOP IT. >> LIKE TRUMP WANTS TO BUILD HIS OWN GREAT FIREWALL. >> STOP IT WITH YOUR WALLS. OKAY, I THINK IT'S PRETTY RIDICULOUS TO EXPECT THAT YOU CAN COMPLETELY CUT OFF A COUNTRY AS BIG AS CHINA FROM, YOU KNOW, ACCESSING YOUR COUNTRY IN TERMS OF ITS TECHNOLOGY SERVICES AND DEVICES. LIKE, YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING THAT, NO, WE DON'T WANT ANY OF YOUR STUFF.

WE DON'T SEE ANY OF YOUR STUFF BEING POTENTIALLY USEFUL TO US EVER AT ALL. AND THAT'S COMPLETELY UNTRUE. CHINESE PRODUCTS ARE IN THIS COUNTRY ALREADY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS WEIRD FEAR ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S MADE IN CHINA, THEN LIKE I'M SORRY BUT YOUR ENTIRE HOUSE MIGHT NEED TO BE TAKEN APART. >> ALL YOUR DEVICES ARE BEING MANUFACTURED IN CHINA MOST LIKELY.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? >> THE ARTICLE THAT WENT UP TODAY BASED OFF OF THE NPR INTERVIEW TALKS ABOUT HOW THERE IS -- AND I WANT TO PULL UP THE CORRECT QUOTE HERE SO THAT I'M NOT MISQUOTING ANYONE. THE ARTICLE IS -- IT WAS INFURIATING FOR ME TO READ. >> BY THE WAY, IT WAS A RADIO PIECE SO THIS IS THE WRITTEN TRANSCRIPTION. LET ME JUST SAY I WOKE UP THIS MORNING, I WAS BRUSHING MY TEETH, AND I WAS, LIKE, OKAY, I HEARD THE HEADLINE, TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO BLOCK MORE CHINESE COMPANIES. AND THEN THEY JUST GO INTO IT.

AND I WAS TRYING NOT TO CHOKE ON MY TOOTHPASTE WHILE I ROLLED MY EYES ON HOW STUPID THIS IS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING THIS MORNING. >> IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE HOST WAS SPEAKING WITH MARKETPLACE'S SCOTT TOM WHO JUST ALSO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. HE'S NOT INVOLVED IN -- SO HE WAS SAYING THAT THE RATIONALE IS THE U. S.

NEEDS CLEAN NETWORKS TO GUARD AMERICANS' DATA AND THE SECRETS OF U. S. COMPANIES. SO THE PLAN MIGHT BE TO REMOVE UNTRUSTED TIKTOK AND WECHAT TO STOP TO LIMIT THESE CHINESE CLOUD SERVICES FROM ACCESSING DATA HERE AND TO PROTECT DATA ON UNDERSEA CABLES FROM CHINA. >> WHICH, BY THE WAY GOOGLE IS GOING TO BE LAUNCHING A NEW UNDERSEA CABLE SOON.

THAT IS A THING. THAT IS IMPORTANT BIT OF CONNECTIVITY. THIS SEEMS INSANE. >> MY FAVORITE PART IS WHERE HE IS ALSO ASKING THIS INTERVIEW WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE THAT THESE CHINESE. >> AND HE GOES WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THAT IN MANY CASES WITH HUAWEI THE GOVERNMENT HAS YET TO PRODUCE A SMOKING GUN SEEN WITH TIKTOK.

INCLUDING CHINA AND THE U. S. DO TAT. >> BY THE WAY, THAT IS TRUE. LIKE, EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY HAS LIKE A FRENEMY RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OTHER.

>> LOOK AT RUSSIA! >> I'M HACKING YOUR NETWORK. AND THEN YOUR SECURITY PEOPLE GO, LIKE, WE SEE YOU AND THEN THEY WINK AND THEN YOU HACK THEM AND IT DEPOSGOES BACK AND FORTH. THAT IS A WHOLE OTHER TOPIC. THAT IS CASUAL ESPIONAGE, I'D SAY. BUT THIS WHOLE THING IS CRAZY.

AND LET'S BRING UP TIKTOK TOO. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE LAST WEEK OF NEWS? WE HEARD AFTER MONTHS OF BASICALLY SAYING HE WANTED TO BAN TIKTOK, TRUMP SAID LAST WEEK THAT, OH, YEAH, THEY WANT TO SHUT DOWN TIKTOK ON ENTIRELY. THEN ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WE START TO HEAR NEWS LIKE MAYBE MICROSOFT CAN BE ONE TO TAKE IT OVER. IF BYTEDANCE SOLD U. S.

OPERATIONS OF TIKTOK, IT COULD STILL CONTINUE RUNNING IN THIS COUNTRY. AND MICROSOFT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. IT'S LIKE THEY WERE HIDING BEHIND A CURTAIN JUST READY TO SNAP THIS UP. WE STARTED HEARING THAT MICROSOFT WOULD BE INTO IT. THEN SUNDAY NIGHT AROUND 8:00 P.

M. , I SAW AN UPDATE ON MY TWITTER THAT MICROSOFT CONFIRMED IN A LETTER THAT IT WAS WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SATYA HAS TALKED WITH TRUMP TO TAKE OVER TIKTOK. AND THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A DEAL WITH BYTEDANCE. BUT THEY ARE AIMING TO CLOSE DISCUSSIONS BY SEPTEMBER 15th. THAT MEANS THEY WILL EITHER BUY TIKTOK OR JUST FAIL AND SOMEBODY ELSE COULD DO IT TOO.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. AND THIS IS WHAT'S CHANGED IN THE PAST WEEK. >> THERE IS SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT. TWO REAL QUICK THINGS FROM THE LAND OF TWITTER. ONE, AS THE MICROSOFT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL ACQUISITION RUMORS ARE FLYING AROUND, PEOPLE WERE LIKE WHAT OTHER COMPANIES MIGHT BE INTERESTED? SNAPCHAT MIGHT'VE BEEN INTERESTED.

BUT I LIKE HOW APPLE CAME OUT AND WAS JUST, LIKE, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED. NO INTEREST, GUYS. THAT WAS GREAT. AND THEN -- >> NOT OUR THING, YEAH. >> GOOD.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOOD AT. PEOPLE AROUND TWITTER OBVIOUSLY IMMEDIATELY WERE LIKE, YO, I WANT IT CHECK OUT YOUR LINKEDIN ON TIKTOK. LIKE JUST THAT VERY UNHOLY MATRIMONY. AND ALL THESE VIDEOS ARE COMING UP. >> DATA, DATA, DATA.

SO REAL QUICK. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS THE ULTIMATE THING. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT MICROSOFT IS GOING TO BE DOING. IT'S NOT JUST THE U. S.

THEY WILL BE TAKING OVER TIKTOK I BELIEVE IN CANADA AND NEW ZEALAND AND A COUPLE OTHER COUNTRIES TOO. IT IS REALLY THE DATA. AD WHAT TIKTOK UN-EARTHED FROM MICROSOFT ESPECIALLY FROM A YOUNGER AUDIENCE, THAT COULD BE REALLY POWERFUL AS IT HELPS MICROSOFT TRY TO FIGURE OUT NEW PRODUCTS AND HOW MAYBE BY LEARNING THESE TIKTOK MEMES THAT YOU WILL LEARN FEATURES YOU WANT TO PUT INTO LIKE WINDOWS, THE MOVIE EDITOR OR THINGS PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY WANT TO USE. THAT'S THE DATA WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT. WHO KNOWS WHERE ALL THIS IS GOING LET'S MOVE ON TO ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

THIS ENTIRE EPISODE HAS BEEN WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SHOUT OUT? >> I JUST GOT IN THE GALAXY WATCH 3 AND THE NOTE 20 ULTRA. THERE IS NO DEADLINE REALLY ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. SO, YOU CAN KEEP WATCHING ME TRIP FEED INFORMATION. I WILL DEFINITELY BE TALKING ABOUT IT ON OUR SITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

THERE IS STILL MORE THAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT EITHER. >> THERE IS MORE. SO MUCH MORE. AND, YEAH, WE'RE EXPECTING A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEWS NEXT WEEK TOO. I'M GEARING UP NEXT WEEK SOUNDS BUSY.

A LOT OF STUFF WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT YET. BUT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE NEWS HEAVY. I ALSO JUST WROTE UP DISNEY'S EARNINGS THIS PAST WEEK WHERE THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THE LIVE ACTION VERSION OF "MULAN" WHICH HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR A WHILE IS ACTUALLY COMING TO DISNEY PLUS ON SEPTEMBER 4th FOR AN ADDITIONAL $30. >> JESUS. >> AND I FEEL LIKE IT BROKE MY BRAIN A LITTLE AND IT BROKE LIKE ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALISM BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE, WAIT, WHAT? YOU'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL LIKE PRODUCTS FOR SALE WITHIN DISNEY PLUS.

AND TO CLARIFY, YES, YOU WILL NEED A DISNEY PLUS SUBSCRIPTION TO BUY THIS THING. >> AND $30. >> SO THAT'S $7 A MONTH PLUS AND/OR THE $70 ANNUAL PLAN. DISNEY CONFIRMED TO US THAT THIS IS NOT A RENTAL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE MOVIE I THINK MAYBE UNTIL IT ACTUALLY BECOMES A PART OF THE DISNEY PLUS LIBRARY IN ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. >> AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A DISNEY PLUS SUBSCRIPTION, WHICH TO ME SEEMS, BLEEP ME, F-ED.

YOU WOULD NEVER NEED A SUBSCRIPTION TO WATCH SOMETHING ON VUDU. DISNEY HAS NO CLUE WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH MULAN. THEY'RE KIND OF EXPERIMENTING. BUT IT IS WILD TO ME THAT DISNEY NEVER OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED THIS. THERE'S NO, LIKE, WRITTEN EVIDENCE OF THEM SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

IT WAS ON THE EARNINGS CALL JUST SAYING, HEY, MULAN, SEPTEMBER 4th, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, EVERYBODY? THERE'S NO PRESS RELEASE. THERE IS NO ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION FOR ANY OF THIS. >> MAYBE THEY'RE LEAVING ROOM FOR THEM TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS. >> THEY ARE DEFINITELY LEAVING ROOM FOR, LIKE, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO THIS OR IF IT FAILS AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO FAIL, BUT IF IT FAILS THEY COULD BE, LIKE, HEY, DID WE REALLY TRY THAT? IT'S ALL WEIRD. BUT GO CHECK OUT MY PIECE.

IT'S VERY RANTY. I JUST THINK DISNEY'S KIND OF MAKING THIS UP AS THEY GO ALONG. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S DANGEROUS AND THEY HAVEN'T FULLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH. IT IS A GOOD DEAL FOR FAMILIES.30 BUCKS FOR A NEW MOVIE, THAT IS CHEAPER THAN GOING TO THE THEATER AND BUYING SNACKS. I THINK ON A BROADER LEVEL IT IS GOOD.

BUT THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH THE ACCESS PROBLEM. AND I THINK THEY NEED TO LINK UP WITH MOVIES ANYWHERE, WHICH IS I THINK THAT'S A PROPERTY THEY ARE DIRECTLY IN CONTROL OF AT THIS POINT. BUT IF YOU BOUGHT IT ON DISNEY PLUS, LINKED IT TO MOVIES ANYWHERE AND THEN, LIKE, OKAY, AFTERWARDS COULD VIEW IT ON THE iTUNES OR VUDU AFTER YOU QUIT DISNEY PLUS THAT, SEEMS FINE TO ME. BUT RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE NO PLAN. THEY'RE LIKE A CHICKEN RUNNING AROUND HEADLESS.

IT'S INSANE RIGHT NOW. KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR MORE DETAILS ON THAT. >> OKAY. DOING BUTTON NOW. >> YEAH.

WE'RE DOING A BUTTON NOW. SEGMENT CHANGE. BEFORE WE GET OFF OF TECHNOLOGY STUFF AND START TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, YOUR CULTURE SUGGESTIONS, DOUG GOT BACK TO US AND SAID, LIKE, FOR $650 YOU COULD GET A GREAT CAMERA AS AN ADD-ON. >> YEP. YOU CAN GET AN ALPHA 6000.

>> FOR THE PRICE GAP BETWEEN THE PIXEL AND, WHAT WAS IT, THE GALAXY? THE NOTE 20. ALSO WE'VE GOT A COMMENT FROM SUKU ON TWITTER WHO SAID GIVEN THE ECONOMIC SITUATION GLOBALLY, ISN'T IT RATHER TONE-DEAF FOR SAMSUNG TO BE SELLING THE NOTE 20 WITH THE PLASTIC BACK INFERIOR TO THE ULTRA AT A LAUNCH PRICE OF $999? ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR A-SERIES PHONES ARE WORTH EACH DOLLAR SPENT. >> YEP. I MEAN, WE JUST SPENT THE FIRST HALF OF THIS PODCAST TALKING ABOUT THIS. SORRY IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, SUKU.

BUT LISTEN TO OUR PODCAST FOR THOUGHTS. IT'S GOING LIVE TOMORROW ON SPOTIFY AND ALL THE PLATFORMS. BUT ALSO OUR COLLEAGUE CHRIS VELASCO HAS A VIDEO ON EXACTLY WHY THIS IS A BAD DECISION ON SAMSUNG'S PART. A PLASTIC BACK, 60 HERTZ SCREEN FOR $999. THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

>> OKAY. LET ME KNOW. >> YEAH. SO LET'S HIT THOSE PICKS. LET'S GET DEVINDRA TO DO IT FIRST.

>> YEAH. IT'S FINE. >> I'LL BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT -- THE THING I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT IS "BLACK IS KING. " HIT THAT WHEN YOU'RE READY. >> SO LET'S MOVE ONTO OUR POP CULTURE PICKS FOR THE WEEK.

SO MUCH TECH. I FEEL LIKE, OH, MAN, THIS IS WHY MOVIES AND TV ARE SUCH A BREAK FOR ME. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT "I'LL BE GONE IN THE DARK" WHICH I KNOW YOU'VE RECOMMENDED ALREADY. IT'S ON HBO. >> SO GOOD.

THIS IS THE DOCU-SERIES BASED ON MICHELLE McNAMARA'S BOOK ABOUT HUNTING FOR THE GOLDEN STATE KILLER BASICALLY. FIRST OF ALL, IT IS ONE OF THE DARKEST AND CRAZIEST THINGS I'VE SEEN IN SOME TIME. IT IS GENUINELY SCARY HOW SHE GOES INTO HOW SHE'S BASICALLY FOLLOWED A SERIAL RAPIST AND MURDERER, FOLLOWED THE EVIDENCE, TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHO HE WAS AND SHE IS SOMEBODY WHO IS INTO TRUE CRIME. I THINK IT'S A REALLY WELL-MADE DOCUMENTARY AND SHE SADLY PASSED AWAY A COUPLE YEARS AGO. HER BOOK CAME OUT POSTHUMOUSLY AND THEY FOUND THE GOLDEN GATE KILLER.

BASED ON A LOT OF HER WORK. SO, THE SHOW ITSELF IS GOOD. IT IS TERRIFYING. IT IS VERY DISTURBING. BUT I THINK IT IS WORTH WATCHING JUST TO SEE LIKE HOW SOMEBODY CAN EXPLORE THE DARK SIDE OF HUMANITY.

AND ON A BRIGHTER NOTE I WANT TO BRING UP "BLACK IS KING," WHICH IS ON DISNEY PLUS. AND THIS IS BEYONCE'S VISUAL CONCEPT ALBUM THAT'S SORT OF LIKE, IT IS HER LIVE ACTION INTERPRETATION OF "THE LION KING" BASICALLY. AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL, THE SOUND TRACK IS EXCELLENT. IT'S BASED ON THE ALBUM. I THINK IT'S CALLED "THE GIFT.

" THE ALBUM THAT CAME OUT ALONGSIDE THE LIVE ACTION "LION KING. " IT IS HER KIND OF RETELLING THE STORY BASED ALSO ON AFRICAN MYTH AND AFRICAN RELIGION AND CULTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO. SO IT'S A VISUALLY LUSH, BEAUTIFUL, INCREDIBLE SOUNDING, YOU KNOW, PIECE OF ART. AND SHE'S CREDITED WITH DIRECTING IT TOO ALONG WITH SOME LIKE VISUAL ARTIST. THERE IS SOME AMAZING WORK HERE.

IT'S A GREAT THING TO TURN ON, LET YOURSELF GET SWEPT UP BY IT. TO ME IT'S LIKE AN EXPERIMENTAL ARTPIECE. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT NARRATIVE. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT PIECES CONNECTING TOGETHER. GO FOR THE RIDE, ENJOY THE JOURNEY, ENJOY THE VISUALS.

I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC. AND THAT'S ON DISNEY PLUS RIGHT NOW AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA $30 TO SEE THAT. IT'S JUST THERE. AND, SHIRLENE, WHAT'S UP WITH YOU? >> TWITTER WAS A BUZZ WITH "BLACK IS KING. " >> WHICH IS NOW YOUR THING.

YOU WANT TO SURPRISE ME WITH THESE EVERY TIME. GO FOR IT. >> I HAVE THREE THINGS. ONE MAIN THING AND TWO QUICK SHOUTOUTS. I SAW "FAST COLOR" ON HULU FOR THE FIRST TIME.

SO GOOD, VERY ENJOYABLE, VERY HOMECOMING-ESQUE IN ITS STORYTELLING. SUPERHERO TYPE SHOW BUT VERY LOW KEY. >> IT WAS LIKE A LOW BUDGET SUPERHERO MOVIE ABOUT MOTHERHOOD. >> WELL ACTED, WELL PERFORM, BEAUTIFUL WORK. AND THE SPECIAL EFFECTS WERE GREAT.

THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO SHOUT OUT IS "THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY" SEASON 2 WAS NICE. I ENJOYED IT. I SAW IT DURING THE WEEKEND WHEN I HAD TIME TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK FROM ALL THIS WORK THAT I WAS KILLING MYSELF OVER. BUT NICE DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL THE CHARACTERS. IF YOU ENJOYED THE FIRST SEASON, YOU WILL ENJOY THE SECOND ONE.

MY MAIN RECOMMENDATION IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE NOT HEARD OF. IT IS THIS SERIES CALLED "INVISIBLE STORIES" ON HBO. DEVINDRA, HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT? >> I HAVE HEARD OF IT. >> SO THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. IT'S FROM A SINGAPOREAN FILMMAKER.

AND IT'S ABOUT SOME PEOPLE LIVING IN A HOUSING ESTATE IN SINGAPORE. IT'S SIX SHORT STORIES THAT AREN'T REALLY THAT CONNECTED. SO IT'S MORE LIKE AN ANTHOLOGY SERIES. THE TITLE TELLS IT ALL "INVISIBLE STORIES. " YOU MIGHT KNOW SINGAPORE FOR HOW IT'S RESPONDED TO COVID AND FOR THE RIDICULOUS FINES FOR THINGS LIKE LITTERING OR "CRAZY RICH ASIANS.

" BUT THIS IS THE SINGAPORE NO ONE GETS TO SEE. THE GOVERNMENT REALLY DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE SEEING THIS SIDE OF SINGAPORE. IT IS STORIES OF PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH, WHICH IS SO STIGMATIZED IN SINGAPORE. IT IS STORIES OF SEX WORKERS IN SINGAPORE WHO ARE IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING IN SINGAPORE SO THEY CAN SEND THEIR MONEY HOME TO THEIR OTHER FAMILY IN OTHER PARTS OF ASIA. AND THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME I WAS VERY PRIVILEGED GROWING UP IN SINGAPORE.

I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF THIS WHAT THE FILMMAKER CALLS THE UNDERBELLY OF SINGAPORE. I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF THIS GROWING UP BECAUSE I WAS VERY PRIVILEGED. I HAD FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTANCES WHO LIVED IN THESE SITUATIONS, BUT JUST NOT ME. AND, LIKE, I WAS SO LUCKY TO JUST NOT BE ABLE TO SEE A LOT OF THAT GROWING UP. BUT WATCHING THIS SHOW.

THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT IT IS IT'S SO AUTHENTIC. IT'S REALLY A SINGAPORE SHOW. YOU'LL HEAR THAT WE DON'T ALL SPEAK IN ENGLISH ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE NO BRITISH ACCENTS. "CRAZY RICH ASIANS," WAS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE WHERE ARE ALL THESE ACCENTS COMING FROM? AND I CAN SPEAK IN MY REAL SINGAPOREAN ACCENT AFTER THIS QUICKLY.

BUT IT'S ALSO A MIX OF LANGUAGES LIKE CHINESE, MALAY, HAKIAN. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A TRUER REPRESENTATION OF SINGAPORE DONE LIKE THIS. SO, REALLY IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, NOT EVEN JUST TO GET TO KNOW SINGAPORE BETTER, BUT THESE STORIES OF THESE PEOPLE LIVING THEIR LIVES TRYING THEIR BEST TO JUST KIND OF MAKE IT THROUGH LIFE. I THINK THAT'S LIKE WORTH WATCHING THIS SERIES. "INVISIBLE STORIES" ON HBO MAX.

>> THAT'S COOL. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CHECKING THIS OUT. >> TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK. I THINK IT'S BEEN REALLY WELL DONE. THE SECOND EPISODE OF THE SERIES IS SLIGHTLY SPOOKY, WHICH WE LOVE.

SINGAPOREANS LOVE HORROR, BUT IF THAT'S NOT YOUR THING, SKIP THE SECOND EPISODE. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, SHIRLENE. >> OF COURSE. >> OKAY.

GREAT. SO THAT'S THE PICKS DOWN. I THINK WE JUST HAVE THE OUTRO. AND AFTER THE OUTRO WE CAN FINALLY GET TO THE UNBOXING. >> AND THE Q&A.

JUST QUICKLY HERE THE OUTRO. >>> AND THAT'S IT FOR OUR EPISODE TODAY, EVERYONE. THANK YOU AS ALWAYS FOR LISTENING. OUR THEME MUSIC IS BY GAME COMPOSER DALE NORTH. OUR OUTRO MUSIC IS BY OUR VERY OWN TERRENCE O'BRIEN.

THE POD WCAST IS PRODUCED BY BE ELLMAN. YOU CAN FIND DEVINDRA ON. >> IF YOU WANT TO GEJ ME ALL ABOUT THE SECRETS OF SINGAPORE AND ALL OF THE SINGAPOREAN STORIES, YOU CAN HIT ME UP ON TWITTER @SHIRLENELOW. LEAVE US A REVIEW PLEASE ON ITUNES AND SUBSCRIBE ON ANYTHING THAT GETS PODCASTS INCLUDING SPOTIFY. >> OKAY.

GREAT. SO, HERE'S THE THING. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE Q&A AND EVERYTHING, DO WE WANT TO LEAVE THE RECORDINGS GOING? >> YEAH. >> BECAUSE THIS MAY TAKE LONGER. >> IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

>> ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO NOT FIGHT IT OUT IN THE COMMENTS ON YOUTUBE, YOU CAN TWEET US @ENGADGET WITH THE #PODCASTLIVE. I'M WATCHING BOTH OF THOSE CHATS AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY END UP TALKING ABOUT THAT. >> THIS IS THE NOTE 20 ULTRA. YOU CAN SEE THE LOGO THING KIND OF SHIMMERING.

IF YOU SEE SOME MARKS OR WHATEVER, IT'S BECAUSE I WIPED THIS THING DOWN WITH A DISINFECTING CLOTH. >> SMART. >> UNBOXING IN THE COVID ERA, YEAH. >> UNBOXED, WIPE IT DOWN. >> ALL OF THE SPECS YOU MIGHT SEE ARE ALL FROM THE DISINFECTING CLOTH.

BUT HERE YOU GO. THIS IS THE NOTE 20 ULTRA. >> CAN YOU HOLD UP THE SCREEN? BECAUSE THEN WE GET A GOOD VIEW OF YOUR WINDOW VIEW. THAT'S NICE. >> YEAH.

IT'S SO PRETTY. SO THIS IS THE BACK OF IT. THE CAMERA YOU CAN SEE THAT. THERE IS A LITTLE LIKE QR CODE THING HERE AND THE SIM CARD FROM VERIZON, BY THE WAY, WHO IS OUR PARENT COMPANY BUT HAS NO CONTROL OVER EDITORIAL CONTENT. I'M GOING TO PEEL OFF SOME OF THESE STICKERS.

>> MAKE SURE YOU PEEL RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE JUST SO WE CAN REALLY HEAR IT. >> OKAY. I'LL DO THAT NOW. READY? ALL RIGHT, MICROPHONE TIME. >> UNBOXING ASMR MUST BE A THING.

>> IT IS A THING. PEOPLE WATCH IT JUST FOR THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT -- I LOVE THE SMELL OF NEW GADGETS OF LIKE ALL OF THE CHEMICALS. IT DOES SMELL LIKE CLOROX. >> BECAUSE YOU WIPED IT DOWN.

>> THAT CANNOT COME ACROSS ONLINE BUT I MISS THAT. >> SO THE PEN WAS STICKING OUT JUST NOW. I AM JUST GOING TO PULL IT OUT. THIS IS THE PEN. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE COLORS ARE JUST SO GORGEOUS.

THIS IS THE MYSTIC BRONZE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT TURNED ON IN A LITTLE BIT. IT'LL WALK ME THROUGH OBVIOUSLY THE SETUP SCREENS. BUT THE REST OF THE BOX IS JUST PRETTY STANDARD. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT IN THERE EXCEPT FOR THE HEADPHONES.

>> WHAT KIND OF HEADPHONES DOES IT COME WITH? >> I CAN PULL THAT UP WHILE I MANAGE THE HEADPHONES. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE IN THE YOUTUBE COMMENTS. BECAUSE I'M GOING TO JUST SHOW YOU A VERY BASIC WALKTHROUGH. >> I EXPECTED MORE PADDING FOR A PHONE THAT BIG. >> PADDING? OH, IT'S PRETTY WELL PADDED IN TE BOX.

SO HERE IS THE -- I REMOVED THE TOP PART. THERE IS THE POWER CHARGER. I AM NOT SURE IF IT'S 25 WATT, 14 WATT OR WHATEVER. IT HAS THE FAST CHARGE SYMBOL ON IT. >> IT DOES HAVE, YEAH.

I MEAN, MOST SAMSUNG PHONES -- I ACTUALLY DON'T SEE THE HEADPHONES. >> BECAUSE THE STORY WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM APPLE, LIKE, THE RUMORS WE'RE HEARING FROM A LOT OF COMPANIES IS THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER GOING TO BE INCLUDING HEADPHONES. >> FOR APPLE. >> NO HEADPHONES AND ALSO NO CHARGERS COULD BE THE NEXT THING TOO. >> AGAIN, THIS IS MY REVIEW UNIT.

SO IT MIGHT BE THAT WHEN YOU BUY THEM YOU GET A BUNDLE. AGAIN, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT MY PACKAGING WOULD BE COMPLETELY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU BUY THE PHONE. JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PLASTIC WRAPPING AROUND IT. >> WE GET THE STUFF THAT THEY ARE JUST THROWING INTO A BOX. ONE PERSON IS ASKING WHAT THE SCREEN SIZE IS.

>> IT'S 6.9 INCH ON THE NOTE 20 ULTRA WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. I'M GOING TO SET IT UP WITH MY WIFI REALLY QUICK. >> WHICH IS ALMOST AS BIG AS THE PIXEL 7 TABLET WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. OR NOT THE PIXEL 7, THE NEXUS 7. >> YEAH, I WAS LIKE WHAT IS THE PIXEL 7? >> PIXEL 7'S COMING.

>> WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING IT INSTALLED FOR UPDATES. AND IT'S ASKING IF I WANT A COPY. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH I'M NOT REVIEWING IT RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST UNBOXING. >> WAIT, HOW IS IT NOT AS HEAVY AS THE S 20 ULTRA WHICH IS A SMALLER SCREEN? >> IT'S SO WEIRD. I DON'T KNOW.

DO YOU WANT ME TO GO GRAB THE S 20 ULTRA? >> GO FOR IT. LET ME HANDS ON WHAT I HAVE. THIS IS A FAT HEAD PREAMP WHICH HAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED ME. THE COMPANY BEHIND FET HEAD, AS SOON AS I PLUGGED THIS THING IN AND UNPLUGGED IT, THIS HAPPENED. >> OR YOU CAN MAYBE TWEET HIM ON HOW HE MISUSED IT.

>> I JUST PLUGGED IT INTO MY KA CABLE. THIS WAS THE NEWEST THING I INSTALLED BECAUSE I HEARD SOME CRACKLING. AND AS I UNPLUGGED IT, IT JUST LIKE CONKED OUT. >> SHIRLENE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DURING THE PRODUCTION MEETING THIS WEEK IS HOW YOU DO DIGITAL HYGIENE ON THE REVIEW UNITS. SO COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD REVIEW THE EXPERIENCE OF TYPING ON A PHONE IF I WASN'T ACTUALLY SENDING TEXT MESSAGES. >> SO, I WOULD SAY THAT DIFFERENT REVIEWERS HAVE DIFFERENT APPROACHES. SOME PEOPLE SWITCH SIMS ALL THE TIME EVERY TIME THEY REVIEW A NEW PHONE. IT IS A NIGHTMARE AND ESPECIALLY LIKE FOR ME I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO DO THAT UNTIL I AM TESTING LIKE LTE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I HAVE IT IN THERE BUT I ALWAYS SWITCH BACK TO MY PRIMARY JUST FOR, LIKE, SANITY.

AND IN THAT CASE I DON'T SWITCH OVER SIM-LINKED APPS LIKE WHATSAPP. I ALSO DON'T USE WHATSAPP. BUT FOR REVIEW PURPOSES I SIGN IN WITH MY PERSONAL GMAIL AND THEN I INSTALL ALL THE APPS I WOULD NORMALLY USE BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET AS CLOSE TO A REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE AS POSSIBLE. SO I WOULD INSTALL THINGS THAT I TRUST IN THE SECURITY. MORE LIKE CHAT APP I GUESS FACEBOOK MESSENGER IS A GOOD ONE.

I USE TELEGRAM A LOT. AND THEN I DO A LOT OF LIKE YOUTUBE WATCH, THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY ON MY WIFI NETWORK. I CAN CAST MY CHROMECAST OR WATCH YOUTUBE VIDEOS PICTURE TO PICTURE ON MY PHONE WHILE TYPING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. BUT MY PRIMARY DRIVER USUALLY GETS A LOT MORE -- LIKE, I DEMAND A LOT MORE FROM MY PRIMARY DRIVER BECAUSE I'M ALSO HAVING MY WORK STUFF ON THERE, MY WORK ACCOUNT WHICH IS MANAGED BY OUR COMPANY'S I. T.

, THAT I TAKE A BIT MORE SERIOUSLY JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE STRICTER RULES AROUND CODE OF CONDUCT. SO I'M NOT ALWAYS INSTALLING SLACK ON A REVIEW DEVICE. I WILL USE MAYBE THE WEB VERSION. SOMETHING THAT I FIND IS MORE PROTECTED OR PROTECTABLE. IT'S TOUGH.

IT'S A DIFFICULT BALANCE FROM WHAT'S MY REAL WORLD REAL EXPERIENCE VERSUS KEEPING MY DATA PRIVATE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RETURN THESE DEVICES. AND IT DOES OFTEN TAKE US A WHILE BEFORE WE RETURN THESE DEVICES. FOR EXAMPLE, I JUST GOT THE NOTE 20 ULTRA TODAY. BUT I DO WANT TO KEEP IT AROUND BECAUSE I NEED TO COMPARE IT TO THE iPHONE 11 OR 12 PRO MAX OR I NEED TO COMPARE IT TO THE NEXT NOTE. SO, WE TEND TO KEEP THESE AROUND FOR A WHILE.

AND SO LIKE I DON'T WORRY ABOUT MY PERSONAL DATA AS MUCH WHEN I HAVE THE PHONE. AND THEN WHEN I NEED TO RETURN IT, I DO A VERY SERIOUS WIPE. I WON'T GO INTO HOW I WIPE THEM BUT I DO A PRETTY SERIOUS WIPE. >> JUST ONE STEP.

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