GonnaGeek.com Show #285 - Gonna Tell Obvious News By GonnaGeek

On this show we talk about a shocking leak out of the world of Google Nintendo, forcing an awesome project to go away. Spotify having a crap load of listeners and Chris has some really obvious news. No really! It's really, really obvious. Plus SP is away so Chris, and I'll make this an Android cast. This is more in this week's show I'm SP from legends of shield a show about the general Marvel comic universe, part of the going to geek network, just like the show you're checking out now shows on the network. Our individually owned and opinions expressed may not reflect others find other hilarious and fun geeky shows at guinea geek network.

com. This is the official Ghana geek. com show here, where a bunch of geeks talking about geeky things. Each week we run down the latest news and happenings in the world of geek. These are your hosts for the show Stephen.

But what, if I'm in the mood for a t-swift story, Chris I've heard the ex is gonna, give it to you and SP. That's how we roll on going to geek on Monday night, we get gonna, geek Productions presents the official going to geek calm, show welcome to episode 285 over the official gonna, get calm, show, I am Steven. John, Drew, and I am pleased to say that Chris Farrell has returned from last week, I'm here to be the poor man's Star Gate pioneer tonight. Well, it's funny that you say that you have this poor man's Stargate pioneer here, because I've been working on my Stargate pioneer impression, and here it is right now Stephen you're, the worst with the gap. By the way the gap was exactly intentional.

I thought I nailed it. It's pretty spot-on and I'm. You know I'm on board, with this I mean I've heard him say that numerous times in pre- and post-show. This is something that, if you view the show live, you occasionally get to witness as the credits roll. That's true.

But yes, we are Stargate pioneer list this week, we're very sad about that we're heartbroken. But that means that it's, the all Android cast today right-hand Roy buddy. Yes, it is the all Android cast. We can't call like all about Android, because someone else has already taken that, but it's the all Android going to geek cast yeah yeah I just wish that we had a special bump or being pixel buddies. Some music heard was by Kevin MacLeod incompetech.

com. Yes, by the way that there was us filling the space that would usually be Stargate, pioneers, introduction and his comments and whatnot. So we're not behind schedule we're right on time, but that was just us using that space to serve ourselves. Basically good fair I mean well, we can't, it's not like. We would be hiding the fact that SP is at a secret NSA conference, where they're planning how to hide the moon from us or anything like that.

Nothing like that would ever happen. You know what I was going to say: I thought sun cast was going to that, but I forgot it's all to hide Sun cast it's all in the laboratory for that, because he is on the secret NSA moon base. Well, Sun cast is currently at the White House briefing the cabinet about the future of the secret, Moon and Mars bases. That's NASA has been putting up so just keep your eyes on Twitter you'll, probably see something here in a couple of hours about the secret bases. Well, I! Guess, on that very confusing note.

We should probably move on to the news because I'm thoroughly confused, or we could talk about Android, all right, Chris, Farrell, I think we should kick off this Android cast with some sort of Android related news. How do you feel about that? Well, it's probably a good idea for claiming ourselves being an Android cast to actually talk about Android and hardware. That Android runs on. Ok, vine is off by talking about something. That's gonna shock, most people who have ever followed Google products- that's right for those of you not familiar Google is the one that makes the pixel, hence the pixel, to bump that we just play a minute ago.

Well, this is the shocking part. There has been a leak with potential Google, pixel products. I know, first time right. No, that's not! This has never happened before well. This thing's, the newest leak, is all about the Google Pixel 3ei.

If you're not familiar with the pixel 3 a is basically the dumb down the simpler version that has been rumored for a while of the Google Pixel 3. Yes, this has been rumored for a while that there's going to be a whole new pixel product coming, and it's going to be a pixel 3 light essentially called the 3a and guess what there is a leaked render shared bye van bias, who does indeed have some credible history with leaks, and it is going to be available in a new, barely purple. Color is what it appears to be called. That's right. Google has we're naming structures, but yes, it looks like it's going to be offered in a purple edition called barely purple Chris Farrell.

How do you feel about being barely clothed? I mean barely purple. This is just on par with the naming convention has because don't they have something like sort of pink is one of their current colors and things like that, because they're, they're very lightly tinted these colors and, let's be honest when it comes to phone colors, 99.9 percent ups are putting them in a case, so we never noticed their cool thing. When you go and buy it, you go hey. My phone's got this cool looking color and then you kind of forget what color your phone is because you've got a case on it. I was just going to say my phone, you can see the front, that's where you see the color.

You can see a little of the color around the fingerprint reader. Aside from that, I did go to a solid case. I will say I'm here for a while. I was sporting, specifically clear cases, because I hated that fact, like my motor acts, totally had a clear case. My pixel original had a clear case for a long time.

A pixel ? had a clear case, and then I just got tired of seeing all the junk that gets stuck under the case. So I ended up, I caved, I went all black I mean. If you want to enjoy the color your phone, you can take care of your phone all natural and live dangerously, like Jay s used to and not have a case. Let's also remember: the jazz broke his phone once every three months. It seemed like because no case, that's true, it's kind of like why we wear clothes, because otherwise, if we don't wear clothes, we get scratch marks and other bruises all over us, because all the ladies like to get on top of you and me and there's just so much of that happening.

I think! That's that's why we wear clothes. Yes, that's exactly because we just use raw animal sexuality and, ladies love it. That is absolutely the case. That is why we do a geek centric podcast, that up until like 150 episodes, you never even saw we couldn't. Let them see us on screen because we were afraid of what would happen because spoiler alert the first hundred fifty podcasts their audio.

Only we podcast naked one, two three or five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, okay, I, think they've cleaned up the throw-up I think they've got it all cleaned up. It's all cleaned up, and they're ready to continue on with the show. Oh, let's go on to your news point here. What's going on in the world of Nintendo and Mario ports, is this like, like a seaport, is that what this is about? Yeah? It is Steven made me sad. So it's only fair! We go on to a sadder story here.

So put yourselves back and I. Remember the early PC days you probably played some games on Apple twos and Commodore 64, PCs. So what's the story here there is a fodder by name of zero page who, for the last seven years, has been working on developing a port of Super Mario Brothers to run on a Commodore 64. So it sounds really cool from a tech standpoint from a geek standpoint like. Ah, this is awesome.

It's not easy to do. Why is that the case, because the processor in a Commodore 64 is only about 57% as powerful as the Nintendo entertainment systems processor, and there are complications, and it comes to doing side-scrolling effects on the Commodore 64. However, zero page did get it figured out. He posted online just to get slapped with a DMCA takedown from Nintendo. Shortly after he posted seven years worth of work online.

This was posted by the PD X Commodore club. That's at c64 club on Twitter. They said good times due to a DMCA takedown notice. We had to remove the Super Mario Brothers 64 download from a website blog from four days ago. Hopefully, everyone enjoys the Commodore 64 game that was able to snag it now.

This should surprise. No one Nintendo aggressively defends their trademarks and intellectual property. I'm not saying they were not within their rights to say, hey, you can't make a Commodore 64 port of Mario, but at the same time, I can also be like it's cool little fan project, and it's done out of love for it. The guy's not trying to make any money he's been working on it for seven years and when he gets done, you issue the takedown and I get that you can do it is just sucks. I really wish to Nintendo would be like hey.

We normally don't condone this kind of things, but we're going to partner with them and say hey. This is a really cool effort. The fact that's going to run on a Commodore 64. It's not the same as someone say, porting it to run on their PC and playing a ROM on their PC or on their PlayStation, or something like that. This is a fan-made effort to make a game that never should work on a Commodore, 64 work on the Commodore 64, and then I like I, said: there's not a huge Homebrew crew for this.

So I'm not surprised, but I'm disappointed that Nintendo issued the takedown notice because Mario's a cash cow they've got to defend it. I just wish they would have let this one go or would have thrown a little weight behind like hey. This is cool. We salute the fact that you did this instead, so they're, one of those moments were Nintendo shut, something down a lot of fans, just kind of collectively go man, and I'm one of those fans. Well, you know there is obviously different layers of lawsuits and things like that, and I agree I think they definitely had to go after this because they didn't go after it, then there are all sorts of possible legal recourse like okay.

Well, you said you gave them a pass. Why don't you give other people pass things like that, but it would be fascinating to see like if this actually went to court them trying to claim that they were out money because the video be like we lost sales, because it's on a Commodore, 64, yeah I think it would be really fun to see them? Try to prove it I, don't think it matters whether they're out money, it's their intellectual and copy written work that is being adapted like it's not like the guy did a mock out to make it look different from Mario. It looks exactly like Super Mario Brothers, like there's a, can catch a couple, different YouTube videos that was posted on this website and various others showing the gameplay and the progress as he did it, and it was meant to be a one-to-one, faithful, replica of Super Mario Brothers that plays in a Commodore, 64, yeah, I, think, and I'm not disagreeing. I definitely think that they had had to do this and that they were required to do it from a legal standpoint. But I agree.

It's completely disappointing, but yeah, oh well. It just kind of echoes the stuff we've seen in the past. Like remember. Let's play videos there's some of those popular things on YouTube. There's a lot of people like to watch their favorite gamers play, be it a Super, Mario, Brothers games or Mario maker or fortnight, or anything like that, and at one point people are able to monetize those videos get a little of a cut of the action and for a while Nintendo was issuing DMCA takedowns on these videos.

And/Or monetizing them themselves. So if you're a person who plays let's play games, and you played Nintendo games, you made not one red cent from the games. You were playing, whereas, if you're playing say GTA or Halo games that are owned by Sony and Microsoft, it was oh, no big deal monetize it because it was basically free advertising for their games. So it's just not one of those things that in the modern Internet of Things people go in and tend to what are you doing? I don't get it. You know, I will say this that I look forward to seeing what somebody does with this, because you can't help but think that someone's going to go and try to just push those boundaries, whether it is taking it and publishing it from a country that had there's virtually no legal recourse or they just modify enough elements.

I think it'll be interesting to see because I think that I think there 's's going to be a future with this still I. Don't think that it's over! Let's be honest: if you want this game, it was already out on the internet, so I'm sure there's a bunch of people who feel they're doing the right thing by hosting it in various different places. So if you were a Commodore 64 enthusiast I'm sure you could look up, Commodore 64 Mario Brothers and find a downloadable executable to run on your Commodore 64. The door has already opened. You can't shut the door once that's happened.

It's just Nintendo continuation, DMCA takedowns for any place that hosts it. So if you're an enthusiast, and you want it I'm sure you can find it just bear in mind that Nintendo is enforcing their trademark and copyright on this material. So you run a risk. If you download this of getting a fun letter in the mail from Nintendo fun fact, Commodore 64 still newer than some of the tech that seems to be used by some big-name streaming. Video podcasts out there yeah that was a shot.

I was a poor attempted a shot uh. You know, yeah I, think you know who I'm talking about, but moving on. Let's talk a little about Spotify I, don't know if you're familiar with Spotify Chris Farrell. Are you familiar with Spotify I know what it is? I had a free trial for a month and I decided I didn't particularly care for it, and I never signed up again. Oh, I am familiar with Spotify I get my music from Google play music right now, though, I actually did sing up for Spotify again yeah I did but I and I guess.

I can be proud to know that I am one of the more than a hundred million users worldwide that are now paying for Spotify Premium. Yes, the company announced that they reach this milestone by growing paid subscribers, nearly thirty-two percent year-on-year. This. Of course the growth includes free subscribers, but Spotify may have a hundred million users that are paying for premium, but they also actually have a total of two hundred and seventeen million monthly active users worldwide. So, yes, those differences is two hundred and seventeen million users active worldwide versus the hundred million paid users.

So why is this news? Well, this is because this actually globally puts Spotify but way higher than anybody else, and also much higher than Apple Music, which is this closest competitor. Apparently, in the streaming music game, Apple had 50 million paid users worldwide, apparently at the beginning of April, but it is worth noting that, even though Spotify is basically doubling Apple's user paid user base worldwide, that Apple does do a lot better in the U. S. versus Spotify and when I say a lot, I mean Apple has 28 million subscribers, apparently in the U. S.

versus Spotify, is 26 million in the u. s. In any case, it's interesting because Spotify does expect to have around 222 to 220 million users by the end of the quarter, and they are continuing to grow that paid flat platform. This is insane 100 million people paying one service for Spotify Premium, and we look back just that. Just not that long ago, where we had Napster and other things and people were outraged out.

They couldn't download illegally for free music anymore and now look at this massive amount of people willing to pay, and I think it also kind of puts into perspective. If those of you who aren't familiar with it, Spotify has been making some purchases to do with podcast and getting into there and spending lots of money, and this really frames how they have that cash pool. One thing to consider is how much the market when it comes to internet-based music, has changed. Let's go back to high school days for Chris. Let's go back to 2000 through 2002 time for him.

Let's go there. When I was like a junior in high school, the big thing there was: if you wanted to buy music online, you could buy it like $0.99, a track on iTunes or you could buy a full album for something between 9 and 13 dollars a piece, or you could steal it via variety of different methods, be it Napster, Kazan trading, CDs and ripping them with friends. The simple fact of the matter was: it was not exactly the easiest way to go, get your music just by buying it all individually, because cheaper just buy CDs fast-forward a few years. People are still pirating stuff, but you start to get these all-you-can-eat methods of music, like we've seen with Spotify Apple Music, who will play music of Amazon's music services, things like that words pay a flat fee per month. You get access to our entire library.

So it's not a matter of I've got to go and buy this CD because I like three tracks on it and then this other CD, it's 10 bucks a month all-you-can-eat you can take and listen to whatever music you want, and it's convenient. But that's the big thing: it's the convenience factor that comes into play with these music subscription services. I, don't have to remember. Oh, did this CD for my favorite band come out. No, it learns.

My tastes, I load the front page of my app, and it goes hey this album dropped ago. Great I want to listen to it and toss into a mix, so I kind of like how this is shifted in who generally likes very specific genres of music. These apps and things help me find stuff I, wouldn't normally because they start suggesting other artists or other albums I'm like okay. This is cool kind of spread out. What I like a little now I understand people who still prefer the physical media makes perfect sense, I'm with you on a lot of things, but when it comes to my music and stuff, the convenience Trump's the fact that I could pick up a CV off my shelf anytime I want and put it my CD player.

This is I, can be anywhere and push play on my phone and start listening immediately. Yes, the quality made me may not be quite as good. Yes, it cost me internet costs for connecting to the network, but it's convenient I can have it wherever I want and there's something to be said. For that. You know.

I will say this. That I was not somebody that was paying for streaming services in the chat. We actually have Albert's him saying: I, don't subscribe to any streaming music services, I just ripped my CD / LPS and listened to those and listened to local FM classic rock station in my vehicle. I actually was like that. I had a lot of legal digital music on my computer because I had a quite vast library of the music that I listen to between my CDs, my wife, CDs and other.

You know CDs that I was gifted along the way, however, we're the real big turning point for me was things like smart speakers or Google Chrome audio I had that gone for a little while really the convenience factor that wasn't easy to do without a bunch of other infrastructure, and you know, skills or weird servers before there was even smart devices like that I had you know, I tried to go up that Avenue with other options, and it just was inconvenient versus paying for a subscription and being able to just play it on my home audio system, whatever it was that I had by just saying play: bla, BLA, bla, and you know I will say that it definitely has increased even more so since I did get really into the echo ecosystem, and I've got multiple echos now, and I do group audio. It has a lot more value to me for sure, and that's where it was really the turning point for me: I'm happy to see that they're continuing to grow, because, while I did personally like the Google Music offer better Google, music and Google Play Music has just been such a weird situation. Over the last few years, I have more trust and Spotify, and I'm happy to see it. Look like they're not going anywhere anytime soon, and I'm happy that globally, they're doing better than Apple, because I do and that's not a shot against Apple I have fear about sort of Apple's track record with sort of closed ecosystem, and that that's my concern. So I'm really happy to see this, and I am probably going to continue to be a Spotify subscriber I will fully admit that I did Rays I up when they were offering a free, Google Home Mini, and that did get me to sign back up.

I was actually really close to paying anyways. At that point, the only other one that actually had me a little interested was the Amazon Prime music they're not doing a bad job over there, at least in Canada, but I, don't know, Spotify seems to be doing pretty well, plus yeah, plus it's just Spotify, and it's got Spotify podcasts on it, which is kind of nice too. It just really depends on what your smart speakers are. That might point you towards that. I have both in my house, but I've leaned more towards using my Google devices for media consumption and google play music just hooks in the brain out of the box.

So it's a lot easier and things like that, and also the thing I like a Google Play Music also is there are no ads on YouTube now, and I forgot how much I disliked ads on YouTube until I forgot to log in on one of my web browsers and start getting ads. It was like what the hell is this. This is me yes, I'm not supposed to get ads and then probably log back in with oh yeah. That's what this is. Okay, I regularly fall down the YouTube rabbit hole.

So that's just another nice perk of Google Play Music, slash YouTube music, because they're sort of the same service, but they're, not I'm, assuming they're, going to phase out, but we'll play music at some point and push us all over to YouTube music, which is arguably the same thing. Just a different app yeah that'll be interesting and that's another example of one of the reasons why I'm happier to give my money to spot I, think Google, just because Google's all over the place and if I'm going to build my lair yeah, they did they've already said. Supposedly people already done it, you can import all of your playlists and things like that out of Google Play Music directly. So you really don't lose anything you're, just in a different app this time you can, what about the next time they change? If Is mean that's the thing they know if they do that, they'll lose people in that regard. Exactly all right.

Well, let's move on to some more obvious news: Chris Farrell! Why is this so obvious? Obvious news you guys might have heard there was a little movie that hit theaters this weekend. It was called Avengers endgame. What the 21st 22nd movie and the Marvel Cinematic Universe is a wrap up of everything. That's been established since the 2008 Iron Man movie, and it broke one metric crap ton of Records this opening week, and we're going to run down a few of them, but the biggest one is the mind-boggling estimate of the 1.2 billion dollars worldwide. They took opening weekend 350 million dollars in North America, which was nearly a hundred million dollars higher than the previous record set by infinity war in the bigger point three hundred and thirty million dollar five-day opening in China.

So, yes, we talked about in the past. How Star Wars didn't seem to catch on in China doesn't seem to be a problem for the superhero movies in game brought in Bank everywhere, and there are some people that are complaining about that saying. Oh, it's a sign that cinema is dying, don't listen to them! If you like, the movie like the movie, don't let them poop all over something you like, but those were the biggest of the records. We've got a bunch more records they broke down on the over at The. Wrap calm was going to go through a few of them.

There were 12 advance ticket sales records. Over the past few weeks, sites like Fandango and atom tickets reported in-game became their all-time highest. Pre sellers and record ticket sales. In the first week in 24 hours, availability, MAN regal announced similar new records on their internal ticketing system, prompting thousands of new screen times to be created in theaters nationwide. It was not unheard of to look up the movie listings at a theater and have it be all endgame all day, long, and I will say this personally I went Thursday night at 6 p.

m. to catch. The first time there were maybe two open seats in the theater I went on Saturday with one of my friends who was in town. We tried to go to the two o'clock showed up at 1:15. They were sold out, went to the three o'clock and there were maybe a dozen open seats in there.

So the hype is real, and I wish I had ordered ahead. In that case, yeah I have to say that last week, after the show for those of you who watch live, you'll know this, but for those who didn't watch live, uh I was saying, like I really had to figure out when I was gonna, go, and I was looking show listings and times, and things like that, and I think the movie see one of the movie. Theaters actually opened up a couple theaters, and they must have just had him held, but a couple of days before, because I think it was on uh. It was on the Tuesday that all of a sudden I saw quite a few tickets open like be available for two different show times on the Friday and me. Surely after I saw that I ended up, seeing those theaters start to fill up and whatnot, so I think they did release it.

So I just happened to get in at the right time and I did it. I was able to go on Friday, and I'm happy to have actually been a part of that because, let's be honest, I don't think we're going to see this sort of draw in a very long time. I, don't think we're gonna. We're going to see this for a very, very long time, not from Marvel not from anybody under the Disney banner, but I think that your news last week about Lion King rivaling. This is completely wrong.

I, don't think lion. Kings going to stand up when it's all said done, especially as you go through some of these other records. For instance, there's 44 opening-weekend records broken. They broke all the records in North, America and China. They set opening-weekend records in 42 other markets that included topping 61 million dollars in the UK, where James Bond, film Specter had come in just slightly under that other markets, where they set records, include France Australia, South, Korea, Argentina, Brazil and Mexico out of the those are just a selection of the 44 opening-weekend records they broke this weekend.

Yes 44, it's insane! Let me ask you that, so you went twice both times. Did you go to D, or did you go 3d? One of them? I only went to D because it's for my case it's one of those. It's a post, 3d conversion with don't care. Yeah, I only went to 3d because of the reason that I just mentioned was there was availability, so I was like yeah, but I had no intention to go. Actually it was just a matter of being there and yeah.

We weren't gonna really talk about it because we're going to keep spoiler free here, but I will just go ahead and say this. The part where Chris Farrell showed up was completely unexpected. I couldn't believe that and Wow there was another stone inevitable. There was another suitable. There was another stone that Chris brought.

That's that's what it was. It was the kidney stone and finally, before we wrap up this episode, let's get to our extra section here. This is a part where we like to just high-level talk about something fairly recent, and this one is one that appeases Chris Farrell and I so, of course we're gonna talk about this, because this is one that usually Stargate pioneer would argue with us on and if he's not here, let's go ahead and say it, even though we know he's watching streaming live right now, and now he's shut off the Google Chrome update of recent is finally allowing dark mode on Windows 10, yes, dark modes been a thing for a while. A lot of people are really liking. Dark mode, I know Chris, Farrell and I, both like dark mode, and we talked a long time ago about how there is massive battery back benefits by having dark mode enabled huge benefits.

In fact, Google has previously come out and said they screwed up by going to that very light design, because it really was hard to deal with battery life. Well, Google back in March released version 73 that brought a dark mode desktop wise as a Mac, OS exclusive, hoping. I know right. However, it does look like there is now an option to bring that over to Windows 10 with the version 74. That's just started to roll out now.

How do you do that? Chris Farrell? Well, you're, not gonna, see a toggle in there. Apparently, the way dark mode is going to work is if you're using Windows 10 you're going to have to go into your system-wide Windows 10 settings in order to change it. So turn your Windows 10 to dark mode, and then, apparently you will see that happen. You have to go under settings personalization colors within Windows 10 and enable it and in partly this will eventually once the update hits. Your computer enabled dark mode on the Chrome.

I have no idea why they couldn't just add a damn toggle in there and have this as an option like make it default where if Windows 10 is running, dark mode, show dock mode and then also have a manual toggle override. This is ridiculous. Google. These are the stupid decisions that you make, that are absolutely mind-blowing and people go. Why the hell are you doing this? Come on? Google uses a toggle within the app because some people don't want to enable it for their whole system just to get it on the browser, because a lot of times they just want it on their browser, because when they got the lights off because they're sitting there in the dark doing the thing that they do when they're at home alone and does dark, they just want it just for the browser, or you could just download an extension for Chrome that forces it no pseudo dark mode.

Oh that's, right! I forgot, that's been an option for a very, very long time. I mean it's cool that they're baking in a native dark mode, because that's the thing that more and more people want, as we've talked about before and for the purposes of cellphones, the OLED two screens like actually battery sanding measures having a dark mode. But it's just weird that it's tied to the Windows settings, because, while I enjoy dark mode views for things, I, don't necessarily want everything in my system on dark mode. I like dark earth themes, and you'll generally see when you log in to one of my Windows machines. Everything is darker colors, but it's not like the full-out dark mode where it's like just dark black, on everything, from what I've got like darker shades of gray and stuff, like that, so it's not fully blacked out I.

It's interested in the grand scheme of things. How many people are really gonna care about dark mode and chrome that haven't already figured out a workaround, yeah I know you were one of them: I'm running a carbon-fibre theme for chrome that forces everything to be dark. Grays and blacks. I should probably find out what that's called ? like an add-in on mine. What ? Cole I? Don't know? That's okay! It's been installed for like six years so now.

Well, that's fine! That's fine! Next up in our extra here, you're speaking of Google, let's go ahead and everybody says: I'm an apple hater, Steven you're, an ample hater I'll go ahead, it's true and poopoo on Google again, because I just did a second ago I'll. Do it again. Yes, Google has admitted that there is trouble selling expensive, pixels Google CEO Ruth Port has said that they sold fewer pixel phones due to an industry-wide pressure on high-end phones. Now poor I didn't specifically say what those pressures were, but he did go on record as saying that there was an industry-wide pressure on high-end phones. Why I wanted to bring this up was actually twofold.

Number one was to say that yes, Google has admitted that the pixel sales are not where they wanted them to be, but the second part of it was as well just a soar to support the points that we've talked about on here, especially I'll. Give him credit, Stargate pioneers done a perfect job of articulating this point, but the fact that there is a lot of reasons to not pay for a high-end phone anymore and to go another way, and this seems to be confirmation that the industry is feeling that pressure. So is this, and this is why I want to bring it up. Ask you Chris Farrell: do you think we've reached that point where they pushed, and they pushed, and they pushed, and we're now pushing back for most people? Probably yes for people that are tech enthusiasts and things like that they don't care they're willing to spend a thousand bucks every six months, traded in the old phone and whatever the price difference is paid. But if you're, someone who wants to buy a phone every couple years or so or just doesn't want to have to buy cutting-edge stuff.

There's a lot of people like yeah I can stretch my phone out instead of using it for one to two years for two to three years, because, let's be honest, what are the big differences between my pixel two and the pixel three a little of processor change? They put a notch in it, and the camera is slightly better okay, but every app I run right now. I have no problems with I can use the internet. Just fine I can use my Twitter apps I can use any app I want, and it runs almost exactly the same as it does on the pixel 3xl. It's the double-edged sword as the hardware it gets. Better people are still optimizing, the software and things to run better, and we're at a point where there's diminishing returns on upgrading, so yeah I kind of get.

Why a lot of people aren't doing it and even me, who's a tech enthusiast I'm like a pixel three school. Maybe if the pixel four is cool, I'd, consider it, but I'm going to stretch it out as far as I can because I there's plenty of people I know besides me that are still rocking like original pixels or Galaxy, S, eights and stuff, like that with no problem yeah and that's probably the boat that I'm going to be in I'll say that if I was buying in a few months when it's released, I might consider the Pixel 3a. Like you know, it's I'd have to really analyze my priorities, but there's enough checkmarks there. That would be on my list of considerations. The other thing to consider with the Google Hardware is especially with the pixel threes.

Unless so, with the pixel twos, they really hosed the early adopters, but what I mean by that is? If you went- and you could have got a pixel three for half-off two weeks ago, because they're running a deal on both project, fine through the Google store, and they've, been running all sorts of crazy sales and stuff, and if you follow any of the Android or the pixel Subreddits over at Reddit com, you'll see people complaining and be like. Why did I buy this phone when it first came out because I used Google's financing plan to get a hundred percent interest free financing on it? But then I wait three months, and they do this deal where people can buy a phone for less than I, currently go on the phone. What's the point in being an early adopter. So a lot of people have just reached that point where, like yeah I'm, not gonna, buy it launched because they've seen it was Samsung they've seen it with Google, but there's a price drop somewhere between three and six months after it comes out, or they'll, do some random sale and the price bottoms out, and you go now, I, don't mind picking up this phone and that's seriously another thing to consider. If you were talking about Android phones, you don't see it happen very much with Apple there's not much the way of price drops, but Samsung and Google specifically wait a few months.

You'll see a price Trump of some kind or there'll be some weird promo that runs, and you can get a better deal, so don't be punished by being an early adopter. If your phone is dead or dying, you need a new one, buy whatever works best for you, but if you're, someone like Stephen or me who's, like we love tech, but our phones work. Just fine, there's really no reason to be an early adopter. You can just wait. You know one of the things that I like to think about is the logistics that are in discounting a phone right when you think about the way that it's all distributed and, like you know, I've worked in cell phone stores and, like the retailer, actually has to pay the full.

Furthermore, you know retail price that they have and then, if there's a discount, then they get a credit back every month or whatever. It is right. I love to think about the fact when Google goes and runs a very large discount program. There's all these other parties involved and you'm sure that that cost them a little more money by having to try to go through that whole rigmarole of getting the discounts applied properly down the chains and things like that, and I just enjoy that because it's like yes, you are losing more profit where, if you had just sold it to us cheaper and not try to take as big of a piece of pie, we would have bought that pie. So I, really I really enjoy thinking about that subtle.

Also, remember: the Google sells the bulk of the pixels through their own web store. So it's a bit easier for them to make. These changes fly yes than the United States use me in the United States. They have a partnership with Verizon, but I would wager the bulk of their phone purchases come directly from people buying on the Google store. Fine, whatever you say.

Finally, last thing we're gonna talk about here is I'll. Give you some Apple news for those Apple fans and be like wait a minute. You know Android cast I shut off ten minutes ago, uh, here's the thing there's been rumors back and forth about whether I phone would be this year adopting the USB charger, because we've seen USB coming into other products which product has it right now on Apple side of things, Chris I think one of the iPad pros does, and it's also on the MacBook line as well. There's no longer the MagSafe charger, it's just a USB port for charging right, and so people have been saying well, Apple is probably gonna. Go there eventually.

Well recently, the rumors are kicking up that the next batch I phone will not have a USB-C port, but it's looking like there might be some setup to get there, because, according to a recent blog post, there is likely going to still be light, a lightning port on the new version of iPhones. But we might see that the built-in charger will ship with an 18 watt, USB-C charger that has a lightning to USB, C, cable. Basically, the charger itself will be USB-C. There will be a cable to convert that over to lightning. So this might be that stepping-stone TIFF that we have between now and a couple of years from now when they finally adopt the USB-C I, don't know, do you think is going to happen on the phone I phone, Chris Oh, eventually it will, but how they're dragging their feet is super annoying because remember, we've talked about on this show before there's licensing fees that come in anyone that makes a lightning plug owes Apple a certain charge every time they make one for licensing purposes.

So it's a great way if for Apple to continue squeezing some more money out of people, let's also remember that the Apple cables suck they fall apart. All the time talk to people about their lightning cables, and after about a year, they end up having to replace them in some way, shape or form. At least if it was USB, see two USB see you could replace it with any USB-C cable, and who gives you care? Who cares what brand it is? I have to say that my USB-C cables that I've owned have been pretty solid, and that includes the ones from my pixel and my pixel ?, and some really cheap ones that I've had I'm very surprised. Actually, because I didn't have faith. I really didn't have faith when I saw them.

They reminded me too much of Apple cables so well. The plug part of the USB see seems to hold up a lot better than the Lightning plug. Does even I only have a tablet and I don't charge it, but every three or four days, and that cable doesn't really leave my house. It sits on one shelf and whenever I want to charge the tablet, I move it over to it up to a corner table and plug it in and without even putting it in a bag or crimping the cable. Much or anything like that, it's still starting to get starting the show is where let's put it that way.

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